This article is completely wrong and celebrates ignorance.
I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
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Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#42Why is this article even being shared on HN let alone end up on the front page within minutes of posting? Anyone with the slightest understanding of this topic can poke holes in every single sentence in this ridiculously uninformed article. I stopped reading half way as it was making me dumber. HN can be so demoralizing sometimes. You'd think this would be the last place to find innovators being smeared but here we are...
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really invasive ads is the main one I'd say. Imagine scammy supplement ads appearing on your phone whenever your hearth beat got a bit unusual. Heck, maybe messing with the rate for a short while is harmless but scary, and a good time to show ads for some pills...
Sort of like a Smart watch?
Good point, though people with pacemakers and people with smartwatches don't overlap very well.
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also , which has been done for decades.
...by governments motivated to have launchable nuclear weapons, not by private citizens creating profitable companies through venture capital. Reusable rockets put his companies work way ahead of government rocketry capabilities.
What do you think Musk’s company relied on for their space program? The novel aspects of that company are a tiny blip on all the government-funded research incorporated into its launch and vehicle systems.
Saying a private company put that vehicle in space is technically true but also at the same time highly misleading.
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#45I think the author calling Musk a conman is too strong a reaction to what goes on. I think Musk has a tendency to oversell already great technology with science fiction. Teslas are amazing cars but full self driving has been 6 months away for years now. Like the author, I would also be upset if I believed Musks promises of a brain-computer interface, only to see them dashed. But Neuralink is already an amazing improv…
As you say, Musk has been claiming self-driving is 6 months away for years now, yet whenever a crash happens they claim drivers must keep full attention. How is that not the definition of a con-man?
Plus the horrible quality of of the cars too.
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#46This article is completely wrong and celebrates ignorance.
Innovations demonstrated:
- Coin-sized brain implant, flush with skull, no external wires.
- 1024 channels EEG
- Electrode insertion with minimal brain-matter loss
- Analysis and prediction of brain-activity (node-beep and motion joint positions)
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#47These various networked computer components being attached to our bodies make me very nervous. See: hackers control pacemaker shock cycles with malware. [1] Software will always be vulnerable and it’s just a matter of time until someone gets eliminated by this vector - or worse, think about a wormable exploit aimed at mass adopted Neuralinks to mass fry people.. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/pacemaker-hack-malware-…
It is scary, but what is the actual incentive? Terrorism, and that is it as far as I can see. In cyber up until know, criminals and espionage seem like much bigger threats than terrorism. We are introducing a new attack surface here, and it makes sense to consider whether we want to. But it is not an attack surface that seems likely to attract many attackers.
[0][1]
* Change in opinion on a given topic by the intruder group paid off by some government/megacorp/group. i.e., voter/social mindspace on demand.
- Change of opinion of critical lynch-pin individuals.
* Personality graft
* Surveillance
- Thought Policing
- (Corporate) Espionage
etc...
[0] Science Fiction
[1] Ghost in the Shell
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#48one feature i dont understand about neuralink is the promised transmission of thoughts. lets say i have a device that can encode activity of every neuron in my brain simultaneously. i think some variation of the thought "elephant," and the neuralink creates some digital representation of these signals. then i send that digital encoding to your brain's neuralink. how on earth are you going to think of ANY elephant, le…
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interestingly, all the neurologists and bioengineers I know were very excited by the demo.
As in, medical doctors who have done brain surgery? Or random dudes who like to inject RFID chips into their hand to pay for coffee
A), my friends are young though, so brain surgery only under supervision probably.
I count body modification as something else.
Re: I was excited for Neuralink, then I watched the demo
#50To me (neuro undergrad, comp sci masters), the demo seemed underwhelming but encouraging. As far as I can tell the tech was not doing anything particularly novel and the 'fitbit in your skull' analogy was personally uninspiring. [edit: the volume of reads /form factor is a step forward] That said, the demo was mostly for attracting talent - lots of money and a great team will likely get them somewhere. In terms of th…
> the tech was not doing anything particularly novel
Where are all these people apparently doing long term, low latency wireless 1024 channel ephys with stim capability?