Rideshare operations are being suspended in California • Hacker News Board

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by tmp538394722 » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:41 PM UTC

nemothekid wrote: post #9

When I moved to CA, I put off getting a CA license for years. I always told myself I'd go to the DMV and do the paperwork, then I waited long enough to find out I would have to retake the test, until finally I just resigned to using Uber and Lyft all the time. I never thought I would need it and so I never made it a priority. So this news really sucks, as you haven't been able to schedule DMV appointments at all and…

I’d think a good ole fashioned taxi would work. Is there a reason you couldn’t or wouldn’t use one?

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by fokinsean » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:41 PM UTC

milofeynman wrote: post #32

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

Yeah I wouldn't doubt if there's some Lyft shills in here.

Removing my tin foil hat now.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by bgorman » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

subdane wrote: post #31

Am I nuts, or is the heart of this issue really the fact that our healthcare system is built on tying benefits to full time jobs?

The heart of the issue is big labor unions want more power, and independent contractor status is a threat to their power.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by Barrin92 » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

Dirlewanger wrote: post #27

setpatchaddress wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuine question: what state government would you look to for a better model?

Ones where people aren't mass emigrating from, to start.

you won't find many because only Michigan and Texas have smaller departure rates as a percentage of their population, and California remains the most popular state for international immigrants in the US.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

I wonder what new app will spring up in place of Uber and Lyft. This is a huge opportunity for some aspiring entrepreneur. Of course, they're probably bluffing and will be back soon.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by oliverx0 » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

milofeynman wrote: post #32

I don't know if you're genuine or not but the way you wrote this post sounds so utterly inauthentic[0]. You're whimsically sad you can't get more fun money to invest in stock, while the reason that ride sharing is being shut down is because it takes advantage of the lower class it depends on. [0]edit: unauthentic->inauthentic

He is giving his point of view based on past experience. A lot of drivers see Uber as helpful side money, and that seems quite genuine. Those who see Uber this away are indeed seeing this opportunity taken away.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by beamatronic » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

newguy1234 wrote: post #5

Thoughts on speculation that this will cause drunk driving deaths to increase?

It absolutely will increase. But this is tempered by the current coronavirus situation

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by zrail » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

subdane wrote: post #31

Am I nuts, or is the heart of this issue really the fact that our healthcare system is built on tying benefits to full time jobs?

You are not nuts.

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by aazaa » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:42 PM UTC

The move seems to be specifically in response to the recent court order:

> Superior Court Judge Ethan Schulman ruled Monday [August 10, 2020] that Lyft and Uber's thousands of contract drivers should be given the same protections and benefits under labor law as other employees of the ride-hailing companies.

> The judge said Uber and Lyft have refused to comply with a California law passed last year that was supposed to make it harder for companies in the state to hire workers as contractors, so gig economy workers such as drivers for the ride-hailing companies would receive health insurance, workers' compensation and paid sick and family leave. As independent contractors, Uber and Lyft drivers are not provided these benefits.

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/10/901099643/california-judge-or...

Re: Rideshare operations are being suspended in California

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 » Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 4:43 PM UTC

woeirua wrote: post #29

I suspect that California is going to backpedal on this pretty quickly. Uber and Lyft are popular. Going back to taxis is going to be very unpopular. IMO, if the California Republican party was smart they would make this a wedge issue in the next election. "Elect us, and we'll make it possible to use Uber again."

The State of California doesn't care about workers, they care about the tens to hundreds of millions of dollars they want from payroll and unemployment taxes, in addition to revenue from automatic withholdings for people whom would otherwise be below the reporting limit.