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Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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Hey HN. Founder of Failory here. Thanks so much for the positive & constructive feedback on the post.

We aim to keep publishing more of these researches in order to make it possible to learn from other startups' failures.

If you have any comments or feedback, you can drop me an email at nico[at]failory.com.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

#42
I really hate those kind of content. Would you listen to someone who built a wall which collapsed ? nope

But you will tell me, if I can prevent the mistakes other made I will go further than them. Well I'm not so sure, for any mistake that someone thought they made there will be another person who identify this mistake as something which made them succeed.

These kind of articles are just porn for people who are not putting enough hours in working toward their ideas. (And top x things that made us successful is as stupid)

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

#43
post #14

Are these really "mistakes" or are they just the random process of value discovery, which naturally involves a lot of failures. Finding product-market fit is not something you can engineer with perfect foresight. You raise money, you build something, and then you have a limited time to see whether your hypothesis about the market was correct. Often, if not most of the time, you fail to get the fit you need in order t…

great comment

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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post #42

I really hate those kind of content. Would you listen to someone who built a wall which collapsed ? nope But you will tell me, if I can prevent the mistakes other made I will go further than them. Well I'm not so sure, for any mistake that someone thought they made there will be another person who identify this mistake as something which made them succeed. These kind of articles are just porn for people who are not p…

Yeah I feel like these articles always end up coming up with apple pie positions. Like talking to customers more is good advice probably but it’s also the most common most stated advice for early startups.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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post #3

This was a surprisingly good read and data-driven. I found it surprising that the top reason for failure was product-market fit followed by team. I would have thought finance (#3) and tech (#4) would rank higher.

Amazon is littered with awesome tech that took 2-3 years to build and launch but failed because there was no market for it. I worked on one such product, a micro payments web service. It took me a while to realize that that’s just how Amazon operates. Carry out experiments all the time, most fail, but the ones who click take off spectacularly. As Bezos says, don’t take Hail Mary bet. Take smaller bets all the time.

The thing that just continues to strike me since I left Amazon is how many start-up ideas are buried within that company. Coming from logistics, there is basically no internal tool or process that couldn't be turned into a start-up. Quite funny actually.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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post #14

Are these really "mistakes" or are they just the random process of value discovery, which naturally involves a lot of failures. Finding product-market fit is not something you can engineer with perfect foresight. You raise money, you build something, and then you have a limited time to see whether your hypothesis about the market was correct. Often, if not most of the time, you fail to get the fit you need in order t…

> You raise money, you build something, and then you have a limited time to see whether your hypothesis about the market was correct. Or, you get to know an industry, see a need, design a solution, bounce your ideas off people in the industry, do some mock-ups to get some initial acceptance of the idea, ask if they'd pay for it, and if/when all that comes together, then start to build. If you cannot build it with you…

And then once you know an industry, see a need, etc... "You raise money, you build something, and then you have a limited time to see whether your hypothesis about the market was correct."

;)

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

#47

My initial thoughts: > First hand lessons > over eighty failed startups I dunno... if you've got first hand experience in 80 startups then maybe their failures are because you didn't spend enough time in any single one of them. Then I read the article: > We've analyzed why +80 startups have failed If you've analyzed the startups then I really don't think that counts as "first hand".

Ok we'll take the hands out of the title above.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

#48

My initial thoughts: > First hand lessons > over eighty failed startups I dunno... if you've got first hand experience in 80 startups then maybe their failures are because you didn't spend enough time in any single one of them. Then I read the article: > We've analyzed why +80 startups have failed If you've analyzed the startups then I really don't think that counts as "first hand".

first hand means you got the info from the first or original source.

Isn't that second hand? You interviewed the people with first hand knowledge.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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weird usage of the term "Marketing" to mean business related(product market fit, competition etc).

Event "product market fit" feels like a sugar-coated way to say that no one is interested in purchasing your product. I don't have a startup, but if I did I would view every single step in the process of creating one, both technical and non-technical, as an opportunity to test the market viability of your product. I'm honestly surprised at the abundance of non-product-viability issues that were cited as determining f…

You can't even say that a product failed because nobody wanted it. All you can say is that nobody you asked was willing to pay what you were asking. I've seen plenty of promising products die because the company wants to only offer it as a service with ridiculous licensing requirements presumably out of fear that some customer is going to build a billion dollar business out of it and not give them a cut of the gross.

It has to be really frustrating for startup CEOs to fold and then see a bad copy of their idea appear as free software and explode in popularity.

Re: Startup mistakes: Lessons from failed startups

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, that's what marketing is (having studied several subjects in it as part of my business degree back in the 90s). Marketing is not just a synonym for advertising and promotions, etc. Marketing is about finding/building/reaching a market for a product. It involves both identifying/creating a market, and identifying/creating a product for that market. Advertising/promotions is just a small (though expensive) part of…

This is mind blowing to me if this is true. I didn’t take many business classes so I wasn’t exposed to this definition. I do run a startup and as others have eluded about startup tech CEOs I’m pretty bad at marketing. But saying that, I still can’t wrap my head around how a marketing person can identify a market or create a product for that market. I basically created the company cause I saw a need. It’s my job as CE…

There was a time my title was CTO, and I'd say to the devs, there is only one function in a company. Sales. Every minute you spend writing tests, is sales. Because at the end there is only one business model. More money in then money out. I'll frame it in a different fashion, often the issue is that developers believe that they are alone with in creating value. And that all of these sales and marketing clowns are just.... What you may probably come to understand is that.... you are a marketing person now! and that this does not make you a lesser person. Yes, you can still code. But your primary function had changed. And over a longer run... it will require you to gain new competencies. So how does a marketing person fit? simply. They are you.
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