Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

Post by serioussecurity » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:27 PM UTC

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #6

woofie11 wrote: post #2

This clearly and unambiguously crosses the line into abuse of market power. Apple's actions before? Maybe? Sort of? Apple needed that 30 percent cut to monitor for fraud and quality or something, going above-and-beyond other payment processors. This? This has absolutely no basis in anything. It's simple retaliation designed to kneecap Epic from Apple's dominant control of a market. Apple can refuse to let Epic releas…

This clearly and unambiguously crosses the line into abuse of market power. Epic is taking them to court. What did they expect, a nice thank you and a pat on the head.

Post by uncoder0 » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:27 PM UTC

TylerE wrote: post #28

chrisacky wrote: post #20

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Of course they should. But, market dominance means agreement to such terms are not 'fair'.

Yes, total market dominance with 10% market share.

Post by draw_down » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:27 PM UTC

fooey wrote: post #22

draw_down wrote: post #9

I don’t have a side in this fight, but I do admire how Epic has clearly planned this out to wring every ounce of publicity and goodwill they can. I don’t find this particular measure (shutting down the accounts) particularly sinister. Epic has made it abundantly clear they don’t like the App Store’s rules and regulations. That’s fine but it means you won’t be selling on the App Store. I see this as Apple taking them…

I don't think they planned this well at all. It feels like rage fueled flailing they didn't think through. What is it going to do for Epic's cash flow if they're not allowed on any app stores for literal years while court cases filter through? What is it going to do for their game store and engine selling business to be indefinitely evicted from the Apple ecosystem entirely? Were I a company using Unreal Engine to de…

Post by donarb » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:27 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #18

ajkjk wrote: post #12

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Really? I got the opposite impression. Apple's tonedeafness and developer hostility is finally being challenged by a (comparative) underdog.

Do you think that Google, Microsoft, and Sony are also hostile and tone-deaf, then? One assumes so. All those platforms extract the same kinds of fees from Epic that Apple does. But mysteriously, Epic only wants to go after Apple.

Post by save_ferris » Mon, Aug 17, 2020, 7:28 PM UTC

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #35

jedberg wrote: post #3

It's fascinating to see the replies to the tweets. It appears most people don't care. They just want their game to work. A lesson in how your customers don't care about how your product is made.

That's right. Epic is trying to use it's user-base as pawns against Apple, but it isn't working. Is Epic planning on lowering the cost of games on iOS by 30% if the fee goes away? I don't believe they are. Edit: Thank you save_ferris for for correcting me. Here is the blog post announcing the discount. https://www.epicgames.com/fortnite/en-US/news/the-fortnite-m...