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Sigh. Looks like Mozilla management hasn’t been able to sense the zeitgeist, after their latest downsizing, so let me spell it out for them: Dear Moz://a management: Everyone is already on board with your ideals of open Internet. What you need to do is get your house in order and focus on your core competency i.e. the web browser and related tooling. You won’t get a seat at the table of Internet biggies if you’re a h…
As someone who has been running my own personal fork off ff for the past half decade because no way the things i want in (and left out) would get adopted due to the conflict of interests at Mozilla, I see these times a great opportunity for more performant adversive additions (and removals of cruft) into browsers directly vs third party addons or custom hacks people may have to do personally now (spoofing data browse…
What changes did you make? I've always wanted to nuke the keybindings and change them to Emacs ones, but never mustered the will.
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> So having Google as the default search engine is the right approach for privacy? That's not their entire approach to privacy. How would you have them exist? There aren't enough people willing to pay for a web browser in 2020. There aren't enough unpaid volunteers to work for free and outcompete Chrome. What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they…
It is may look like the reasonable compromise on the surface but it really isn't. Manifestos are about principles not pragmatic approaches, taking a stance is not free or easy, look at the stance RMS takes on open source and GPL for example. Had RMS and other pioneers in the open source movement did not take such ideologically driven stance at the expense of pragmatism , we may have parts of BSD maybe today but not t…
I don't think Firefox is failing to retain market share because their values are compromised. I think it's because Google is outspending them in technical work. And doing all they can to promote Chrome. And optimizing their own products for Chrome only.
I really do not think that refusing $400M/year, and trying to raise a fraction of that from companies and people that so far have not contributed significant funding will somehow improve Firefox's appeal to end users.
Firefox is a consumer product, unlike BSD. I know this is disagreeable on this forum, but RMS' values although certainly commendable are not super useful in building popular consumer products. As evidenced by absolutely negligible proportion of consumer software created with values as uncompromising as RMS (measured by the number of users who actually choose the software, not people who use it without knowing, because that has nothing to do with consumer products or values).
> We are better off forking off in a community funded model before the inevitable happens and try to build a sustainable project around that.
By all means, go ahead, see how much momentum you can get. I will be positively surprised if such an initiative takes off, although I would still not expect that to improve the fate of Firefox or its new fork. Google needs antitrust action at this point.
I don't get it. Is Mozilla a Neo-Marxist organization now? Why don't you talk about software development instead? About building FireFox? About disrupting tech? It seems Mozilla is now run by people more interested into communism than actually building a fucking software and bringing value to the world. RIP Mozilla.
Not to mention that this document is pretty old.
I think the main difference is it feels a lot less authentic now. Less grassroots and more a corporate-ish attempt to appeal to the masses.
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> So having Google as the default search engine is the right approach for privacy? That's not their entire approach to privacy. How would you have them exist? There aren't enough people willing to pay for a web browser in 2020. There aren't enough unpaid volunteers to work for free and outcompete Chrome. What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they…
> There aren't enough people willing to pay for a web browser in 2020. As one said, their problems didn't start in 2020. Honestly, Firefox should have fought tooth and nail to be THE embeddable browser. We should not be embedding Blink/WebKit but Gecko or Servo. It should have fought Google in EU, but kinda hard to do that when you depend on them. The reason they got checkmated weren't made now, but several years bef…
I mean my company also pays a lot every year just to upgrade us to Windows Enterprise. And to me, going from Chrome to an unpleasant-surprise-free alternative would be similar.
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> So having Google as the default search engine is the right approach for privacy? That's not their entire approach to privacy. How would you have them exist? There aren't enough people willing to pay for a web browser in 2020. There aren't enough unpaid volunteers to work for free and outcompete Chrome. What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they…
> What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they don't need Google's money to exist, and people here are shitting on them left and right for this. charge businesses for Firefox Enterprise Edition, that way businesses are paying for support and funds development towards Firefox.
It's a shame but I don't see it being any better the next time I inevitably try.
I don't get it. Is Mozilla a Neo-Marxist organization now? Why don't you talk about software development instead? About building FireFox? About disrupting tech? It seems Mozilla is now run by people more interested into communism than actually building a fucking software and bringing value to the world. RIP Mozilla.
Were you under the impression that mozilla wasn't ideologically driven previously? Hell look at the imagery of some of their early logos. https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-hi... Not to mention that this document is pretty old. I think the main difference is it feels a lot less authentic now. Less grassroots and more a corporate-ish attempt to appeal to the masses.
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> So having Google as the default search engine is the right approach for privacy? That's not their entire approach to privacy. How would you have them exist? There aren't enough people willing to pay for a web browser in 2020. There aren't enough unpaid volunteers to work for free and outcompete Chrome. What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they…
> What would you have Mozilla do? They're trying to develop other services that can actually make them money so they don't need Google's money to exist, and people here are shitting on them left and right for this. charge businesses for Firefox Enterprise Edition, that way businesses are paying for support and funds development towards Firefox.
>The Internet is an integral part of modern life—a key component in education, communication, collaboration, business, entertainment and society as a whole. What if Mozilla had used the internet and hadn't spent their billions on bay-area engineers but on hiring young third-world talents and offered them a job that educated them in web- and browser development? There could be thousands of engineers working on Firefox…