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Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by robyates » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 4:39 AM UTC

dylanz wrote: post #6

My good friend is a journeyman, and I always wished there was a US equivalent, especially in the realm of software engineering. I'm sure a lot of people would enjoy coding with brilliant programmers and traveling around the country. Anecdotally speaking: My friend has a "wunderstick", which is a hand made walking stick. When we go into bars in Germany, he taps it, and the bartender gives us free drinks. Before we lea…

Actually, there are journeyman software developers. Here are some links:

1. Corey Haines: http://programmingtour.blogspot.com/, http://www.coreyhaines.com/, http://www.coderetreat.com/

2. Journeyman Programmer Description: http://teamdoty.us/journeymanwp/?p=4 (from http://www.thejourneymanprogrammer.org/)

3. Software Craftsmanship: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_craftsmanship, http://scna.softwarecraftsmanship.org/, http://www.softwarecraftsmanship.org.uk/

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by WA » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 7:12 AM UTC

Funny, I have seen these guys in a bar a few months ago (in Germany). I didn't talk to them. However, that would've been interesting I guess. Anyways, interesting story.

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by eru » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 9:36 AM UTC

jsilence wrote: post #23

Luc wrote: post #16

I really wanted to see those beer-giving sticks, and found that the magic google word for more pictures is 'Wanderschaft': http://www.google.com/images?q=Wanderschaft

Sorry, but "Wanderschaft" is a rather old fashioned word for hiking. It is the noun version of the verb "Wandern" (to hike). The stick is called "Wanderstab" or "Stenz".

Actually, it is not `the' noun version, but `one' noun version. The more common contemporary known is Wanderung.

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by eru » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 9:37 AM UTC

plastics wrote: post #25

zinssmeister wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the most critical step towards success of such a thing is getting a few bigger companies in each of the startup areas to offer exclusive intern/entry/mid-level positions to these kinds of people.

I guess a lot of hacker news reader work in said startup areas. So is anybody willing to give it a shot? I am located in Munich, Germany, not exactly a startup hup, but I have some connections to Berlin and would be willing to annoy my contacts there until they agree. Also should the plans for my own company work out in the next months, I would be willing to offer exclusive intern/entry/mid-level positions.

I'm in Cambridge, UK, but come from Germany and have seen the Walz. I'd be interested.

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by plastics » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 1:19 PM UTC

eru wrote: post #44

plastics wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess a lot of hacker news reader work in said startup areas. So is anybody willing to give it a shot? I am located in Munich, Germany, not exactly a startup hup, but I have some connections to Berlin and would be willing to annoy my contacts there until they agree. Also should the plans for my own company work out in the next months, I would be willing to offer exclusive intern/entry/mid-level positions.

I'm in Cambridge, UK, but come from Germany and have seen the Walz. I'd be interested.

Ok, I will start to pitch the idea to the best of my abilities and will let you know what came out of it. :)

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by zinssmeister » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 1:56 PM UTC

eru wrote: post #44

plastics wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess a lot of hacker news reader work in said startup areas. So is anybody willing to give it a shot? I am located in Munich, Germany, not exactly a startup hup, but I have some connections to Berlin and would be willing to annoy my contacts there until they agree. Also should the plans for my own company work out in the next months, I would be willing to offer exclusive intern/entry/mid-level positions.

I'm in Cambridge, UK, but come from Germany and have seen the Walz. I'd be interested.

I was born and raised in Germany as well but am now in Dallas getting ready to move to Palo Alto.

Besides this digital Walz it might also be interesting to start a small network for "Global German Tech Talent" or something. I know there are a few germans in the Valley.

Re: The traveling German carpenters

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Post by eru » Thu, Apr 07, 2011, 4:44 PM UTC

zinssmeister wrote: post #46

eru wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in Cambridge, UK, but come from Germany and have seen the Walz. I'd be interested.

I was born and raised in Germany as well but am now in Dallas getting ready to move to Palo Alto. Besides this digital Walz it might also be interesting to start a small network for "Global German Tech Talent" or something. I know there are a few germans in the Valley.

That might actually work in practice. But in principle selecting on the basis of nationality always sounds silly to me. (But I guess I'm just being a good German here. Where not even our President is a patriot.)