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Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

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Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#41

I think in the last thread a bunch of people were adamant Google wasn't a monopolist because plenty of phones shipped with app stores outside of Play. Seems like Google picks and chooses which of those are okay. It's time to stop lying: Google will absolutely abandon every single rule in the book to ensure they get 30% of Fortnite purchases. It's too lucrative, and Google is too greedy. This has nothing to do with sa…

TBF, this is bleeding fresh new information; I expect most of those arguing in good faith were unaware of this behaviour.

But yes, let's stop pretending that Google is an altruistic, benevolent and freedom-loving company. It's not.

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#42

But Andy Rubin told us.... the definition of open: "mkdir android ; cd android ; repo init -u git://android.git.kernel.org/platform/manifest.git ; repo sync ; make"

He's been gone from Google for six years, so I don't think we can paint him as a hypocrite or going back on his word over this. EDIT: In fact it was around the time Android was changing a little bit away from its open source roots that Rubin was sidelined out of the Android division and into robotics, shortly after which he quit.

October 2013...

“Google's iron grip on Android: controlling open source by any means necessary”

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/googles-iron-grip-on-android

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#43
post #37

I think in the last thread a bunch of people were adamant Google wasn't a monopolist because plenty of phones shipped with app stores outside of Play. Seems like Google picks and chooses which of those are okay. It's time to stop lying: Google will absolutely abandon every single rule in the book to ensure they get 30% of Fortnite purchases. It's too lucrative, and Google is too greedy. This has nothing to do with sa…

Their customers are not your right For example,you are not forbidden from developing for some random Linux distro They did not build their trust and ecosystem for free,so you should'nt have access to them for free 30% is not unreasonable,costs can be managed,since you are selling a digital product

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Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#44
post #37

I think in the last thread a bunch of people were adamant Google wasn't a monopolist because plenty of phones shipped with app stores outside of Play. Seems like Google picks and chooses which of those are okay. It's time to stop lying: Google will absolutely abandon every single rule in the book to ensure they get 30% of Fortnite purchases. It's too lucrative, and Google is too greedy. This has nothing to do with sa…

Their customers are not your right For example,you are not forbidden from developing for some random Linux distro They did not build their trust and ecosystem for free,so you should'nt have access to them for free 30% is not unreasonable,costs can be managed,since you are selling a digital product

"Their customers are not your right"

When did I become Google's property to trade and bargain with? Because it sounds like i didnt buy the phone, Google bought me.

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've disabled the vast majority of Google apps that ship with the phone: - Chrome: privacy related, not necessarily garbage, but if the OS were Chinese we'd effortlessly call Chrome's behaviours spyware. I use Firefox - Photos: random single-touch dialogs offering to enable sync. This is upsell and another opt-in data grab. Also the source of the aforementioned ITS 4AM WAKE UP AND HAVE A DELETE MEME PARTY notificatio…

I've had Android phones exclusively for at least 8 or 9 years, use Photos, and have no idea what you mean by the DELETE MEME thing. What is that?

https://old.reddit.com/r/MotoX4/comments/ao45og/files_messag...

Turns out it was Files not Photos

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#46
post #37

I think in the last thread a bunch of people were adamant Google wasn't a monopolist because plenty of phones shipped with app stores outside of Play. Seems like Google picks and chooses which of those are okay. It's time to stop lying: Google will absolutely abandon every single rule in the book to ensure they get 30% of Fortnite purchases. It's too lucrative, and Google is too greedy. This has nothing to do with sa…

Their customers are not your right For example,you are not forbidden from developing for some random Linux distro They did not build their trust and ecosystem for free,so you should'nt have access to them for free 30% is not unreasonable,costs can be managed,since you are selling a digital product

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Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#47
post #3

"Google prohibitions on bloatware hurt bloatware deal, claims bloatware vendor"

You mean like how my phone shipped with Google music and Google duo, two discontinued services but with applications i now can't delete?

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#48
post #3

"Google prohibitions on bloatware hurt bloatware deal, claims bloatware vendor"

You mean like how my phone shipped with Google music and Google duo, two discontinued services but with applications i now can't delete?

Do you mean Allo? Duo is very much not discontinued.

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#49

I know that decimate is a colloquialism nowadays but I feel like a publication should know better. Unless Google asked for ten percent of the proceeds or something, as a headline it makes absolutely no sense.

It's not a colloquialism, it's its modern definition. The meaning of a reduction of 10% is just historical. Meanings do change, and this one has a long time ago.

Re: Google forced OnePlus to decimate a Fortnite launcher deal, claims Epic Games

#50

I know that decimate is a colloquialism nowadays but I feel like a publication should know better. Unless Google asked for ten percent of the proceeds or something, as a headline it makes absolutely no sense.

I have only ever seen this usage by people pointing out that this is what it “actually” means.
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