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Seems bold considering China’s firewall and all the US social media and chat apps it’s banned.
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> bans ByteDance from retaining US lawyers once the ban is in effect, which is a violation of due process To counter the parent’s comment, this sounds like something a totalitarian state would do
Are you implying the USA is a totalitarian state now?
> The source familiar with TikTok's internal discussions on the matter says the president's order appeared rushed and did not include carveouts or exceptions for TikTok to maintain any legal representation, which the company plans to argue is a violation of due process rights. This is the important part for me and the reason the order could actually be overturned and need to be redone. The administration keeps doing…
Seems bold considering China’s firewall and all the US social media and chat apps it’s banned.
China didn't ban Google or Facebbook. China has laws that required Google and Facebook to keep their servers within Chinese borders and they chose to not follow those rules, hence preventing them from operating in China. Whereas Tiktok has complied with all the laws in US thus far but still banned because of baseless national security concerns. And that's the issue here.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Facebook#China
> In China, Facebook was blocked following the July 2009 Ürümqi riots because Xinjiang independence activists were using Facebook as part of their communications network, and Facebook denied giving the information of the activists.[12] Some Chinese users also believed that Facebook would not succeed in China after Google China's problems.[13] Renren (formerly Xiaonei) has many features similar to Facebook, and complies with PRC Government regulations regarding content filtering.
> As of 20 August 2013, there have been reports of Facebook being partially unblocked in China.[14] However, according to the "Blocked in China" website, Facebook is still blocked as of December 7, 2019.[15] Facebook is not blocked in the autonomous zones of Hong Kong and Macau, as well as the province of Taiwan. Facebook is currently working on a censorship project for China, where a third party would be allowed to regulate on Facebook and control popular stories that come around. This would be a huge attempt on Facebook to get back into China.[16]
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> bans ByteDance from retaining US lawyers once the ban is in effect, which is a violation of due process To counter the parent’s comment, this sounds like something a totalitarian state would do
Are you implying the USA is a totalitarian state now?
I am not opposed to a ban. However, I am opposed to the executive having the power to force companies (foreign or otherwise) to sell assets. We are really entering developing country territory here.
They're not forced to sell. They would simply lose access to the US market. They've already lost access to the Indian market.
This effectively means that the app is not a national security threat but the ownership of it is.
And that threat was as determined by the executive without any charges.
I am opposed to such unilateral powers where the executive plays godfather and decides the rules of the game.
Seems natural. The only proof he has of the claims of risks against national security seems to be his typical wild ramblings of “a lot of people say! Everyone knows! Just read the manuals, read the books!” While not being able to mention a single name or fact. If trump forces trough this sale, the EU are bring morons if they don’t forcefully take over EU facebooks and LinkedIn business by Wednesday next week.
I'd start the questioning like this... "On an average day how many kids under 13 do you think join TikTok without their parents knowledge?" "On an average day, how many teens under 18 and preteens dance in a manner that would be considered provocative on your platform?"
If the reason for banning TikTok is to "protect the kids" why not say so in the order, instead of using some vague "national security" excuse? Clearly the TikTok ban had nothing to do with young kids using it or dancing provocatively, and the administration clearly isn't thinking about the kids when the ban was ordered.