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How Two American Kids Became Big-time Arms Dealers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? They've done some phenomenal reporting on the War on Terror.

Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair, and GQ have really surprised me with the quality of their reporting over the past few years, in areas like national security where I would not have expected them to cover anything. They may have some liberal bias, but not ezcessively so; especially on a military embed, they are being fee information from "authorities", so if being biased but honest journalists makes them more questioning o…

I agree that Rolling Stone &c are printing some excellent reporting.

The reason, I suspect, is that they force their writers to be entertaining. Not only does this mean people read and appreciate the long-form articles (and thus build demand for more of them), but it forces the writers to properly get to grips with their subject.

A lot of self-consciously 'serious' investigative journalists put far too little emphasis on turning their research into an engaging story. I was talking to one last week, who seemed almost offended by the idea that he might use 'narrative tricks' to engage readers in his articles. He's won many awards, but little public attention -- and IMO it's precisely because he doesn't consider himself an entertainer.

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Even our wars are outsourced. Obama has continued this trend (as well as declaring war all by himself against non-imminent threats which is specifically against the constitution and illegal).

To fight simultaneous wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq, the Bush administration had decided to outsource virtually every facet of America's military operations, from building and staffing Army bases to hiring mercenaries to provide security for diplomats abroad. After Bush took office, private military contracts soared from $145 billion in 2001 to $390 billion in 2008. Federal contracting rules were routinely ignored or skirted...

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So my question is, where does the money go? If they keep it, that sounds like a pretty interesting deal. Multi-millions for 4 years in jail? I'd assume it was confiscated, but then who ends up in the black?

The people who got paid for the ammo they bought, which was paid for decades ago and probably not in any official books any more anyway.

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What are the benefits of the government outsourcing so many defense contracts like this?

These types of situations with middlemen and lowest bid seem ripe for corruption and substituting poorer goods for the desired ones - seems like the taxpayer is getting ripped off at the expense of the middlemen and defense companies.

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What impressed me is how they overcame their age and the size of their business to compete with the big players, through meticulous hard work and unscrupulous social engineering. With better ethics, I would love to have someone like that on my team: "Diveroli knew how to win them over with a mixture of charm, patriotism and a keen sense of how to play to the military culture; he could yes sir and no sir with the best…

If you ask me, their ethics were an extension of the USG.

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Good article, but Rolling Stone has the most annoying 'print friendly' layouts I have ever seen. Peppering the article with links to other (mostly unrelated) pages really takes you out of the story.

Yes, that is damned annoying. They need to stop doing that immediately.

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What impressed me is how they overcame their age and the size of their business to compete with the big players, through meticulous hard work and unscrupulous social engineering. With better ethics, I would love to have someone like that on my team: "Diveroli knew how to win them over with a mixture of charm, patriotism and a keen sense of how to play to the military culture; he could yes sir and no sir with the best…

If you ask me, their ethics were an extension of the USG.

I'm sorry, the USG? The US Government? Has HN really nose dived now into general blanket statements about how the US government is a big bad monster and everyone with a little bit of power and money is the devil? This is Hacker News, a news site run by a startup accelerator. Startups are trying to become big business. They're trying to become the devil redditors love to hate in their never-ending circlejerk of naivety. This is a site dedicated to technology and capitalism and you are very, very lost if you're posting here to hate on with your obtuse and unrealistic politics.
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