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Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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> In fact, for reasons I’m yet to discern, my iBook’s internal AirPort Wi-Fi card can’t connect to modern Wi-Fi networks—they simply confound it. WPA2 was standardized a year after his laptop was built. The ancient 802.11b card in it wants to do WEP. Getting driver support for a modern USB WiFi on that prehistoric version of OSX is no picnic either. It's a good thing he doesn't want to get it working.

Some modern wifi networks have 11b (and 11a) switched off so that newer protocols (11n +) can get higher throughout.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

#42

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Except get security updates that are only ever packaged in newer OS releases, for one thing. I get where you're coming from, but this is the fundamental problem with network-connected devices. I'm an Apple fan, of sorts, and my whole family is part of the Apple ecosystem, but the company has a nasty habit of strategic obsolescence and doubly so around transitions.

Both Mojave and Catalina support MacBook Air models from 2012.

Yeah, I know, but Big Sur is around the corner.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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There is a histerish cafe in Sofia, Bulgaria, that has one of those Macs in every room and allows customers to play/select music from it. I think they never updated those machines as they just work and make the vibe of the cafe even more interesting as time passes.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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My uncle was using a 25+ year old PC running DOS and WordPerfect up until he passed away last year. I think he enjoyed the distraction free environment.

Is there a word for such long-lived computers that aren't hobbies? "Retrocomputing" is people goofing around. A person who drives a 1995 Honda is probably not a "retromobility enthusiast". Maybe at some point in our future it won't seem weird to use a 25-year-old computer.

I think we could be there already if not for a few niggling details. The first iPad mini has just been vintaged by Apple, and my laptop won't be supported by Big Sur.

There's nothing technically wrong with the laptop either, it's got max RAM, as much as the CPU and logic board will support, the drive, battery and wireless card are all replaceable, you can take out the optical drive and replace it with either one that supports Blu-ray or replace add another SSD, no USB3 ports but it does have Thunderbolt, Gigabit Ethernet, IR for an Apple Remote and an SDXC slot. Apple's just up and decided they're done supporting this laptop from 2012. A few forum posts I saw indicate if you were to force Big Sur on, everything but the wireless card would work. The only major silicon difference between this computer and models that are still supported is the integrated graphics, but without working wireless it's a bit of a non-starter.

I could buy a couple of replacement parts and easily keep this thing going for another 5 years or longer, which I still can if I'm willing to give up on Mac OS X entirely. What I'm probably going to do is keep it going another year or two and replace it once the dust has settled a bit on ARM Macs and Apple has proved they're not going to take their Mac line down a ridiculous direction in the next few years, then maybe replace the operating system and find another use for the machine.

Unless you're pushing the bleeding edge of performance, machines like this are still plenty good, especially if your RAM floor is 16GB. It's not the fastest, another machine I use for work screams by comparison, but there's not really any good reason a 2012 machine couldn't still be ticking along in 2037 if you've parts to service it with. Serviceability is really the only limiting factor at this point. That said most Macs that came after mine lost a lot in serviceability, so that's the caveat.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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One of the things I miss about older laptops is the keyboards. I would love to buy a laptop that is built like a PowerBook G4 or a ThinkPad X61 but with modern displays and modern internals, and with extra bonus points if it has user-replaceable batteries and user-serviceable storage and RAM. I've found the Thinkpad X62 ( https://geoff.greer.fm/2017/07/16/thinkpad-x62/ ) and X210 ( https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/03/04/t…

Not entirely high res and high quality keyboards, but the NexDock offers that ability as a shell wheee you plugin a compute stick, phone, SBC, rack server, etc.

AFAIK there are a few similar ones as well

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

#47
I enjoy the nostalgia of booting up and using old machines. After the first sentence this article came off as disingenuous. There are easier ways to stay productive without needing to break out a 17 year old Mac. It’s almost like the author is trying to convince himself this is a good idea. Turning off WiFi and using apps in full screen seems much easier.

The author mentions Slack. I’ve been using Mattermost for about 2 years now. I’ve found that having a mandatory offline schedule is important. I’ve been vocal about that with my team. Usually I’m offline from Mattermost for about 2-3 hours a day. Which allows me to focus on my work.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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Maybe it's just me, but the user interface on that old PowerPC Mac looks gorgeous - way better than modern "flat" UIs

For the most part, that looks like it's after the pinstripes were toned down, but before the brushed metal fad took hold. So there's plenty of use of color and enough depth to make it easy to distinguish between UI elements. But as noted by others, there are some legacy holdovers on display, too.

It's probably one of the most "timeless" looks ever used by OS X.

Re: Why I still use an old PowerPC Mac

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Aside from being pin-compatible is there a reason CF is more suitable for an OS volume than SD?

You're unlikely to get support for modern high speed SD cards in these sort of adapters. CF has a better shot of supporting UDMA and even if not PIO mode 4 will get you 16MB/s which will likely outperform a typical SD slot in these devices.

That's great to know, probably why my SSD to ipod hdd didn't work out as great, and CF is the way to go.
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