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Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

I agree the title is annoyingly misleading.

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

I have put list per "expert" to make you feel better.

  Herman:
  - ISL
  - Hands on 
  - Chollet
  - spark+desk

  Miller:

  - Grus
  - thinks stats
  - la done right
  - bishop
  - data intensive

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

Thanks for reaffirming my habit of checking the comments before clicking through. Learned about a lot of useful resources from this and other comments!

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

Seconding this comment. Based on experience in hiring data scientists and comparing notes with many others that hire data scientists, the most frequent gaps in knowledge are (1) statistics specifically and scientific computing in general and (2) disciplined software engineering.

People good at (1) and bad at (2) write "PhD code" that may or may not be right but you can't tell because it's too disorganized. People good at (2) but bad at (1) get fine-ish looking numbers out of their good looking code but you can't tell whether it's right because they may have ignored or misunderstood fundamental assumptions and correctness of the underlying methods.

There are also seemingly tens of thousands of people on the market who have little experience in either but have adapted projects from examples online into their Github potfolio and put all of the relevant terms into their resume anyway.

I think most aspiring data scientists would be better served going with more introductory texts and really understanding them. Maybe Blitzstein and Hwang's "Introduction to Probability" and then McElreath's "Statistical Rethinking" or Wasserman's "All of Statistics" for people who need more stats.

I'm not even sure what to recommend for developing good software judgment and habits. There doesn't seem to be a shortcut for that. Maybe "Fluent Python" or "Effective Python" for Python people? No idea for the R ecosystem.

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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post #46

This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

Seconding this comment. Based on experience in hiring data scientists and comparing notes with many others that hire data scientists, the most frequent gaps in knowledge are (1) statistics specifically and scientific computing in general and (2) disciplined software engineering. People good at (1) and bad at (2) write "PhD code" that may or may not be right but you can't tell because it's too disorganized. People goo…

Perspective for (2): it's because no one in graduate training really cares about code quality. Your PI focuses more of your attention on scientific writing, and so there's little to not time to polish your work. The incentives just don't support this work at the graduate training level.

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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I personally learn better through coherent code examples rather than math notation / jargon. Manning's excellent "Data Science Bookcamp: Five Python Projects" teaches data science basics using code, not greek symbols. Also, the projects themselves are pretty cool and challenging, but doable. https://www.manning.com/books/data-science-bookcamp

Re: Best Data Science Books According to the Experts

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post #46

This is a completely, utterly worthless list: the only things that belong on it are Grus (good for python), maybe Bishop (maybe; it's woefully out of date and light on details) and Hastie (his other book is vastly better). The "General interest" books are all horse shit. If you're a pythonista, you should buy Wes McKinney's book. If you're not, you should buy John Mount and Nina Zumel's "Practical data science" which…

Seconding this comment. Based on experience in hiring data scientists and comparing notes with many others that hire data scientists, the most frequent gaps in knowledge are (1) statistics specifically and scientific computing in general and (2) disciplined software engineering. People good at (1) and bad at (2) write "PhD code" that may or may not be right but you can't tell because it's too disorganized. People goo…

"R inferno" will help with the software engineering bits I suppose. R is sort of designed to do this sort of work, and it assumes the end user is more of a statistician than a programmer. Lots of foot-guns. On the other hand, Python has a lot of them as well, and it's NOT designed for this kind of work. It's a sort of mixed bag: R core is vastly better than Python for this sort of task. There's a subset of R packages which are as good as scikit learn (which is very good indeed), but there is also a pile of total shit. R's package manager is also better than anything in the python universe, but node bros manage to screw it up. I loathe python from long experience, so I polarized on R, but python is definitely winning.

I just assume anyone who calls themselves a data scientist is going to be a shit tier programmer who needs to improve over time at this point. The exceptions kind of prove the rule. Imposing test-driven discipline will cure some of the worst tendencies.

I don't have good references on stats and linear regression tier data science, but I'll take someone who understand the basics (I dunno, calculating useful moments from empirical distributions, feature selection in linreg) over some weenie who has some cribbed ipython file in his githubs who claims to understand Hastie.

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