I had to read the title a couple times to make sense of it. I was reading "Intuit Parents", thinking it was some new product...
How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
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Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
dwohnitmok in response to your edit, I agree this is the issue. Your link was fantastic and adds to the conversation.
But you're getting voted down too! (Maybe not anymore?) And ebg13 is getting absolutely destroyed.
HN's gonna HN. I try not to worry too much about it.
Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#43CBC interview/documentary from Ideas with Paul Kennedy “Never in Anger” parts 1 and 2 -
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#44So a large part is to lie? I don't know. I mean, yes, I get angry by my children, and I don't know any parent that does not. Probably I get angry too often too early. But I really try hard never to lie to my kids. I even show them that I am angry because I think that's part of the game. Kids need to learn that other people have emotions. But telling stories about horrific creatures to avoid dangerous places? I don't…
That's what I took away as well. At some point all these stories have to be retracted and the truth told. It was a big deal for us as kids about Santa, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc. What if there were hundreds more though? What if the parent only corrected a portion of these? What if the situation never arose again where the child would identify the lie and instead propagate it to offspring?
Perhaps we've just solved how religions start... /s
Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then maybe they are at least partly aware, that it is mythology and not real.
Where does "making up stories" end and "mythology" start?
Both is the same.
What matters is the intention.
I will tell my boy stories about christmas and fairies, but I will not tell him santa exists as a real person.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't a lie in the way we'd typically talk about lies. It isn't meant to deceive. It's a myth. As a child grows and discovers that there isn't really a monster in the sea, are they going to resent their parents when they understand the explanation? I think that's the difference here.
Perhaps these kinds of magical ideas that we teach our kids makes them more susceptible to believing various religions/cults are real. That would be a downside.
When you stigmatize suspension of disbelief (myths, stories), you setup the child to chronically suspend belief. You get a person who can only value what can be pointed to and measured. A gullible person is bad, but the other extreme is no better.
Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#47So a large part is to lie? I don't know. I mean, yes, I get angry by my children, and I don't know any parent that does not. Probably I get angry too often too early. But I really try hard never to lie to my kids. I even show them that I am angry because I think that's part of the game. Kids need to learn that other people have emotions. But telling stories about horrific creatures to avoid dangerous places? I don't…
That's what I took away as well. At some point all these stories have to be retracted and the truth told. It was a big deal for us as kids about Santa, the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, etc. What if there were hundreds more though? What if the parent only corrected a portion of these? What if the situation never arose again where the child would identify the lie and instead propagate it to offspring? Perhaps we've just…
We used to tell children the truth. Just read the old fairy tales—Pinocchio, Little Red Riding Hood, etc.
Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#48My kids heard this story on the air while we were in the car. My then-eight-year-old remarked, "Yeah, that wouldn't work with us."
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"Problematic" is a kind word for cherry-picked, misinterpreted, hypergeneralized, and contrary to available evidence with a hefty dose of noble savage xenoromanticism thrown in.
I’m always amazed at how English speakers took some loanwords from French, then derive their meanings up to the point they became offensive (examples: problematic, oriental). The issue is that for non-English native speakers those overloads are easy to miss (and usually absent from dictionaries), and a post can be made pretty trollish accidentally.
We have so much french in this language. Ever wonder why it's called a "vending machine"? Look up the french verb for "to sell"
It's everywhere. English usually has a competing french and German derived word for each experience.
Re: How Inuit parents teach kids to control their anger (2019)
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Problematic" is a kind word for cherry-picked, misinterpreted, hypergeneralized, and contrary to available evidence with a hefty dose of noble savage xenoromanticism thrown in.
I’m always amazed at how English speakers took some loanwords from French, then derive their meanings up to the point they became offensive (examples: problematic, oriental). The issue is that for non-English native speakers those overloads are easy to miss (and usually absent from dictionaries), and a post can be made pretty trollish accidentally.
I don't consider it offensive. I consider it vague and euphemistic.
It happens with all non-specific language. The word "problematic" is vague; it doesn't say anything about what the problems are, just that someone thinks something is wrong somehow. The only thing the reader can do given vague words is guess at what the writer meant.
Then _that_ phenomenon collides with idiomatic euphemism. Vague words become euphemisms exactly because of how vague and weak they are, weakness being basically the entire purpose of a euphemism.
IMO the first thing that people should be taught in school about writing (assuming schools bother teaching anything about writing) is that writers should always use the most concrete, specific, unambiguous words possible. But we don't learn that, so the world doesn't communicate that way, and so the world falls apart.