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Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

Dunedan wrote: post #25

The volume of the Unihertz Jelly 2 (77.4cm³) is more than 13% larger than the volume of an Apple iPhone SE (2020) (68cm³)! I consider that to be a good reminder that there is no free lunch: If you build such a small smartphone, you suddenly don't have enough space behind the screen for a flat battery anymore, forcing you to increase the depth of the device to fit an adequate battery. You then end up with a device wit…

That’s fine with me.

The iPhone SE was a good size but had terrible battery life from day one.

I’m now using an iPhone 7, and it too has terrible battery life, with the added benefit that if I take it out of its case I cannot hold on to it for a sustained period because it’s so thin and has no real edges to speak of, just large diameter radii.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by as1mov »

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #31
panpanna wrote: post #29

If Sony ever brings back Xperia Mini I will be a happy man. I don't want the best camera or the fastest cpu. Can live with a tiny display. Just give me something that can run Android 10 reasonably well in a tiny package and you have my money.

Oh, I loved the X10 Mini. Especially the one with the little slide-out keyboard. I typed better on that than I do on my much larger iPhone.

I had the X10 Mini Pro. The slide out keyboard was absolutely amazing for emulation + doing sysadmin tasks. The only alternative these days is the F(x)tec Pro [1], but it's quite expensive :(

[1]: https://store.fxtec.com/product/fxtec-pro1/

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by RandomBacon »

FreakyT wrote: post #14
ruffrey wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the original Jelly. Had high hopes of getting a small modern phone, with minimal features but no time wasting apps, but returned it. Battery life was hours. It wasn’t safe to take to work because it’d be dead in an hour of listening to music on the commute. Phone call quality was so poor my family and coworkers went mutiny. I could hear them fine but the mic was awful, apparently. The screen was so, so small th…

You might be in luck later this year — rumor is that the smallest model of “iPhone 12” will be almost the same case size as the classic SE.

Rumor is that Apple starts fake rumors so they can always surprise everyone. Actually, that rumor is completely made up just like every other rumor.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by RandomBacon »

Klinky wrote: post #20
kilo_bravo_3 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just "BEST SELLER 3.5 INCH ULTRA SMALL CELL PHONE SLIM ANDROID OEM CHINA UNLOCKED 4G DUAL SIM" on Alibaba with a fingerprint reader and better camera. The same as every single other Jelly product. I'll never understand kickstarter. edit: you're probably able to find the exact model of phone they're rebadging if you search for its oddball screen resolution, I just grabbed the name of the first miniphone that l…

I don't think this is the case. It has a decent P60 SoC w/ 6GB of RAM and Android 10 support. None of the mini phones I could find on Alibaba were anywhere close in spec. Even the term you highlighted was for 3.5" screen, not 3.0" screen.

I imagine it's not hard to track down whomever makes the phone on Alibaba and pay them a few extra dollars to put in a few better chips. Then use Kickstarter magic to advertise it, and pocket the difference.

What's the actual evidence that they designed and made it, a screenshot of the CAD file in the video? They never actually claim they created it themselves and tested iterations etc like actual phone manufacturers do. Somehow they're more secretive than Apple?

Considering they already have "protypes" that are being reviewed, I think it lends credence to this possibility.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by nomel »

em-bee wrote: post #34
Dunedan wrote: post #25

The volume of the Unihertz Jelly 2 (77.4cm³) is more than 13% larger than the volume of an Apple iPhone SE (2020) (68cm³)! I consider that to be a good reminder that there is no free lunch: If you build such a small smartphone, you suddenly don't have enough space behind the screen for a flat battery anymore, forcing you to increase the depth of the device to fit an adequate battery. You then end up with a device wit…

it still makes a difference, i struggle to use my current phone one-handed. reaching the other edge with my thumb is always a pain. i welcome a smaller but thicker phone.

I get hate every time I demonstrate mine, especially from males, but something like a pop socket really makes handling a phone a much nicer experience.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by panpanna »

RandomBacon wrote: post #45
Klinky wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think this is the case. It has a decent P60 SoC w/ 6GB of RAM and Android 10 support. None of the mini phones I could find on Alibaba were anywhere close in spec. Even the term you highlighted was for 3.5" screen, not 3.0" screen.

I imagine it's not hard to track down whomever makes the phone on Alibaba and pay them a few extra dollars to put in a few better chips. Then use Kickstarter magic to advertise it, and pocket the difference. What's the actual evidence that they designed and made it, a screenshot of the CAD file in the video? They never actually claim they created it themselves and tested iterations etc like actual phone manufacturers…

This is a Shenzhen company, they probably know 100 different local smartphone OEMs and can order directly from them if they wish.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by JadoJodo »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #41
Dunedan wrote: post #25

The volume of the Unihertz Jelly 2 (77.4cm³) is more than 13% larger than the volume of an Apple iPhone SE (2020) (68cm³)! I consider that to be a good reminder that there is no free lunch: If you build such a small smartphone, you suddenly don't have enough space behind the screen for a flat battery anymore, forcing you to increase the depth of the device to fit an adequate battery. You then end up with a device wit…

That’s fine with me. The iPhone SE was a good size but had terrible battery life from day one. I’m now using an iPhone 7, and it too has terrible battery life, with the added benefit that if I take it out of its case I cannot hold on to it for a sustained period because it’s so thin and has no real edges to speak of, just large diameter radii.

Are you using the 2020 SE or the older one?

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by dencodev »

I was eager to buy this and even had the kickstarter on my calendar and checked it first thing this morning after waking up (PST). Unfortunately $129 was really the limit of what I was willing to pay and they're out of that tier of pricing. I cannot imagine this retailing at $200 and doing well. I guess I'll pickup a used one in a year when someone gets bored with it.

I have the first one and it's great for the gym or running. However removing the rear backing and battery to swap my phone's sim card into is a pain (so that I don't have to pay for two phone plans when I only use this one a few hours a week), as is the micro USB charging and the lack of fingerprint reader and the smaller battery.

Re: Jelly 2, World's Smallest Android 10 4G Smartphone

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

JadoJodo wrote: post #48
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s fine with me. The iPhone SE was a good size but had terrible battery life from day one. I’m now using an iPhone 7, and it too has terrible battery life, with the added benefit that if I take it out of its case I cannot hold on to it for a sustained period because it’s so thin and has no real edges to speak of, just large diameter radii.

Are you using the 2020 SE or the older one?

The older one. Was using.

I read the 2020 SE is the same size as the 7, so meh that makes it completely uninteresting.

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