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Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

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Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

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post #12

I feel like a smart country would take this opportunity to develop electronic, no-fee payment wallets, not just bring up a coin task force...

Not all smart people want a no-currency economy. Having all transactions being electronic means that it's super easy for financial institutions and the feds to track every single purchase you make. It's none of their business to know that much detail.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#42
I'm surprised to see so much advocating for digital currency in here. Is nobody else worried about the government having an electronic record of every transaction that's made?

They'll have data about everything that anyone has ever bought, where and when they bought it, and a graph connecting everyone who has ever done business. There will no longer be any anonymous way to trade.

I personally consider the end of paper money to be the final nail in the coffin for the country. There's no coming back after that, the government has complete and utter control over the citizenry from that point on.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#43

The obvious solution is to make everything digital, but that impacts people who aren't digital. Never mind the anonymity aspect. The other solution could be to get rid of cents all together. This is what Vietnam has done and it is fantastic not having to deal with small metal change. Although, this created a new problem, they need to lose a few 0's. Being a dong millionaire (largest bill is 500k) means you've got abo…

The anonymity aspect is a huge deal.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

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post #7
post #2

What does a shortage of coins look like today? Difficulty paying for a parking space or a gumball? Is it just difficulty giving change in a cash transaction? Wouldn't stores have access to banks that arent closed to be able to give change? What's the role that coins play today that would be noticeable?

Stores are unable to handle cash transactions because they can't make change, because they can't get enough from their banks, because the banks aren't getting enough supply, apparently.

I've heard that some banks will no longer take large amounts of change from people. I'm not sure if they got rid of the change counting machines, or just don't want to deal with it. This could have some effect on the amount of change in circulation. People then have jars/ashtrays/drawers of change that they can't easily put back into supply.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#45
post #12

I feel like a smart country would take this opportunity to develop electronic, no-fee payment wallets, not just bring up a coin task force...

This sounds like a problem with immediate impact which will eventually (1-2 years?) go away. Creating a new payment system, deploying it widely, getting people to use it, all takes way longer than that time period.

They could build on the Direct Express debit Mastercard system that already exists to give social security (and other federal payers) a place to direct deposit funds for people who don't have a bank account.

You'd need a way to get money on the card, but that could be ATM deposits, presumably.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#46
If the Fed would put Coinstar type machines in Post Offices without charging a fee or taking a cut, I think they would find a lot more people who are willing to get their coins back into circulation.

It would have to be cheaper on an ongoing basis than constantly minting coins.

Wrapping coins and exchanging them at a bank is just too tedious and time consuming.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#47

If the Fed would put Coinstar type machines in Post Offices without charging a fee or taking a cut, I think they would find a lot more people who are willing to get their coins back into circulation. It would have to be cheaper on an ongoing basis than constantly minting coins. Wrapping coins and exchanging them at a bank is just too tedious and time consuming.

The Fed's stated goal is to create jobs, not destroy them.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#48
post #32

There’s a phenomenal amount of double-think going on in this sentence. “While there is an adequate overall amount of coins in the economy, the slowed pace of circulation has reduced available inventories in some areas of the country.” Literally the second clause contradicts the claim of the first.

You can have enough coins, but if they aren't circulating, then it doesn't really matter. If I'm hording a thousand dollars of coins, those coins are part of the inventory but aren't helping anyone.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#49
post #12

I feel like a smart country would take this opportunity to develop electronic, no-fee payment wallets, not just bring up a coin task force...

This sounds like a problem with immediate impact which will eventually (1-2 years?) go away. Creating a new payment system, deploying it widely, getting people to use it, all takes way longer than that time period.

Sure. I'm not saying they should not solve the short term problem. Just that there's a bigger opportunity.

Re: Why do U.S. coins seem to be in short supply?

#50

If the Fed would put Coinstar type machines in Post Offices without charging a fee or taking a cut, I think they would find a lot more people who are willing to get their coins back into circulation. It would have to be cheaper on an ongoing basis than constantly minting coins. Wrapping coins and exchanging them at a bank is just too tedious and time consuming.

The Fed's stated goal is to create jobs, not destroy them.

> The Fed's stated goal is to create jobs, not destroy them.

That’s not true. Here’s the truth: https://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed.htm

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