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Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

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And Uber didn't do anything wrong at all. >These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors The very same SV that has Airbnb, doordash, grubhub et all? give me a break

I upvoted you and the GP without a bit of hesitation or cognitive dissonance.

GP? -Poster?

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#42

Fuck this guy. These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors; with some rotten apples here and there like this guy and Elizabeth Holmes.

It seems the higher you go in the ladder of “success”, the more everyone around you is a cunt. How does one square this reality with wanting success?

See also: the Gervais Principle: https://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#43

Fuck this guy. These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors; with some rotten apples here and there like this guy and Elizabeth Holmes.

Here we go with the "bad apples" again. Let's face it. It was all fun and games until silicon valley was the underdog. Now this place makes and inevitably breaks the world. As is natural, places of power will attract people of malice. It will bring out selfishness and pride from a fraction of any random group of people that are given this opportunity. The undoing of any rebellion is the flawed belief that the rebels…

You have basically applied trotsky's theory of eternal revolution to the tech world. Whoever is in power must always be challenged, even if they were once the ones denouncing those in power.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

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Being a smart engineer is no more a pass for being morally bankrupt than being skilled in some aspect of business,

No argument there. But at least he's a "smart engineer". Holmes wasn't even that.

If you honestly think that being smart on some dimension that you personally think is particularly virtuous is some sort of get out of jail free card, you might want to re-think your ethics.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#46

Fuck this guy. These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors; with some rotten apples here and there like this guy and Elizabeth Holmes.

Here we go with the "bad apples" again. Let's face it. It was all fun and games until silicon valley was the underdog. Now this place makes and inevitably breaks the world. As is natural, places of power will attract people of malice. It will bring out selfishness and pride from a fraction of any random group of people that are given this opportunity. The undoing of any rebellion is the flawed belief that the rebels…

Did you mean to say "while Silicon Valley was the underdog"?

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

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I was careless enough to open it, so here you go: https://ipfs.eternum.io/ipfs/Qmd9PTEtuSrKKtJQw36aNzpjJwZAdCd...

Thanks! I think this link might be a little better (direct to the PDF): https://ipfs.eternum.io/ipfs/Qmd9PTEtuSrKKtJQw36aNzpjJwZAdCd...

Ok, we've changed to that from https://filebin.ca/5Tmq93EmU5FZ/Levandowski-Uber-Complaint.d....

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

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While I don't think Levandowski is a good guy (he did take a bunch of files, even if I think it's unlikely they were used in any real way), I think the way Google pursued him hinders skilled individuals from switching between companies and spreading innovation. Here's an excerpt from a New Yorker article about the case: > The judge, William Alsup, quickly tired of such distractions. “Despite the excellent quality of…

There’s an easy way to avoid this: just don’t take any documents, source code or equipment from a former employer. That’s all you have to do. Why? Because just by having them it could taint your future work.

Not only did Levandowski not to this, he:

- bulk downloaded these files near the end of his employment;

- was deleting them in the office with Uber’s due diligence team.

He may not have benefitted. Uber may not have. But he created this cloud of uncertainty by not doing the common sense thing.

My personal theory is that he wanted insurance in case he couldn’t recreate this later if he needed it and/or he felt like this stuff belonged to him because he created it. Even though it’s clearly work product belonging to your employer people get possessive about these things.

As for the criminal part, honestly I actually think that’s what this law is for: to criminalize the plundering of commercial IP by by bad actors and competitors.

Re: Levandowski files suit against Uber [pdf]

#50

Fuck this guy. These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors; with some rotten apples here and there like this guy and Elizabeth Holmes.

And Uber didn't do anything wrong at all. >These people are the cancer of Silicon Valley that generally has integrity and decency in pursuing startup endeavors The very same SV that has Airbnb, doordash, grubhub et all? give me a break

Oof, bad example there. Airbnb is cancer. It’s enabling people to run illegal hotels in residential neighborhoods, allowing people to cash in when their neighbors pay the price and driving up rents.

And no I don’t care if you’ve had use out of it or you feel like “it’s my property, I can do what I want with it”, which is an entirely self-serving rationalization that doesn’t stand up any sort of scrutiny.

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