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The TikTok War

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Re: The TikTok War

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I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

Yeah.

You are right.

There are big diffferences.

For one: You can joke on TikTok ...

Re: The TikTok War

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> It's replaced rants and frustration with laughter and positivity. ... and Chinese spyware in the pockets of children.

Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country. Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting.

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Re: The TikTok War

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I'm not sure how I got sucked into Tiktok but I was quickly hooked. There's something so refreshingly playful, authentic, and raw about so much Tiktok content compared to Instagram. Instagram (explore/discovery) is generally pretty people with pretty things in pretty places. That was fun for a while but it's just not that interesting after a while. I don't need to see more pretty pictures of women doing yoga. I don't…

I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

>Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison

Yes please make a movie about your next it projekt ;)

I even hate repair-videos on youtube, it's slow and lame, the fix-it manuals are 1000s times better (since i know what a torx is and that most screws open counter-clock-wise)

Re: The TikTok War

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am also deeply fascinated by TikTok. It is really next generation social media. Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Hacker News all look seriously dated in comparison.

In what way exactly are you comparing tiktok to HN?

He must be delusional. Tiktok is for dancing videos as far as I can tell. The parent comment and down are taking stances that I would never expect on HN. Something is off, there is nothing ‘refreshing’ about tiktok.

Re: The TikTok War

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I'm not sure how I got sucked into Tiktok but I was quickly hooked. There's something so refreshingly playful, authentic, and raw about so much Tiktok content compared to Instagram. Instagram (explore/discovery) is generally pretty people with pretty things in pretty places. That was fun for a while but it's just not that interesting after a while. I don't need to see more pretty pictures of women doing yoga. I don't…

Me too.

I don't have any evidence, but I believe human evaluation in the whole recommendation is the remedy that makes TikTok excels.

Re: The TikTok War

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This tiktok "war" is, ultimately, changing the way people politicians think about media tech. With Twitter or Facebook, it's a lot easier to dismiss the magnitude of their influence. After all, they're not in business to influence politics. They just want to make tech & sell ads and make money. They don't care what becomes news, who wins elections etc. Benign commercial interests, that's all With tiktok and the chine…

> After all, they're not in business to influence politics.

Dude, I personally know people who work in Facebook's own lobbying department. I would be very surprised if Twitter didn't have the same thing.

Re: The TikTok War

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As an European I am happy that someone is finally breaking the American monopoly on social media. It just feels wrong only being surveilled by the NSA.

Install yandex tiktok and facebook and you have the holy trinity ;)

Re: The TikTok War

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> It's replaced rants and frustration with laughter and positivity. ... and Chinese spyware in the pockets of children.

Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country. Hand wringing about TikTok seems more rooted in sinophobia than genuine privacy concerns, from where I’m sitting.

> Not sure I consider Chinese spyware any worse than the US spyware of Facebook, as a resident of neither country.

I consider it quite different, because I know I'm more opposed to the ideology of the CCP than I am of the US. The US isn't intractably opposed to liberal democracy, but the CCP is:

From the OP:

> To that end, this long history looms large in how China thinks about its relationship to the U.S. specifically, and the West generally. China is driven to reverse its “century of humiliation”, and to retake what it sees as its rightful place as a dominant force in the world. What few in the West seem to realize, though, is that the Chinese Communist Party very much believes that Marxism is the means by which that must be accomplished, and that Western liberal values are actively hostile to that goal. Tanner Greer wrote in Tablet:

> ...

> This understanding of China’s belief that it is fighting an ideological war explains why the severe curtailing of freedom that happened in Hong Kong this month was inevitable; if the Party’s ideology is ultimately opposed to liberalism anywhere, “one country-two systems” were always empty words in service of China’s rejuvenation, and Marxism’s triumph. To see that reality, though, means taking China seriously, and believing what they say.

Re: The TikTok War

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post #39

As an European I am happy that someone is finally breaking the American monopoly on social media. It just feels wrong only being surveilled by the NSA.

Ah yes, the well-known comfort of having even more security services pawing through your personal data. Mmmmm.
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