Again, what about Zoom's remote control feature (or annotate/whiteboard)? Is any competitor doing that?
How Zoom works [slides]
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Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#42Spot on. I really wonder if all those people claiming "Zoom just works, unlike x" have really believed that the first time joining a meeting, or if they're just used to its weird UX quirks.
I think people just jumped on the 'Zoom bandwagon' and assumed it was great, because everyone kept saying how great it was.
I don't like zoom UI and graphical design but the application is relatively easy to get used to and its core (conferencing) works. And enough people started using it so people felt safe to invest time into it. I think That's what and why people like it.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#43Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Skype on windows is a disaster. On iOS my girlfriend and I use it (we have to) and I can never connect to her, no matter how fast my connection is, she has to call me.
Skype is a disaster...
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#44The only UX that matters in video conferencing software is connection UX, which is where Zoom excels.
Have you ever tried to join a Cisco Web X meeting? Takes longer than the meeting...
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#45Modern Browser have already build in, p2p, encrypted video chat functionality.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/WebRTC_API/...
I played around with it years ago, and it worked quite good and should have improved a lot since then, so why has no one come up with a solid solution, that does not require us to route our video calls through china, or microsoft servers?
I suppose the devil is, like always, in the details. So what am I missing?
Probably, that webrtc via p2p is hard to do for more than 2 people? But someone should have at least tried it?
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#46Great-great analysis! We need more of those exposing apparent lack of understanding of basic principles of usability by designers of many modern products. My instinct is to tell them, “Read The Design of Everyday Things at least, please!”
Awesome, thanks!
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#47A large part seems to be about the invite feature and UI, which is something that I never encountered because I wouldn't even think about inviting people from inside a video conference software. Passing links around in other channels seems far more useful to me, and is the only way I access or share meetings. And Skype, where you first have to find the people you want to talk with is much, much more annoying there th…
Yeah, I would say that I don't think I've joined Zoom and used it that way, its almost always either a set scheduled meeting where there is a dedicated room, or just an always up room that you join at a given time for more ad-hoc meetings.
At least part of the issue will probably be the disconnect between that style of more "work" usage and the fact its become tool at the moment for families to connect. In that regard, going through the UI as shown may be more common, and does have some more issues, though its also maybe less of a focus for a more work-focused tool.
It does seem to be decent enough for the non-host at least, where if they just blindly press the blue button on entering they'll be in the call/waiting room, which is at least fairly frictionless from a non-host point of view, and for me the bigger concern. I can deal with the UI, I'm more worried about my Grandpa or something working it out if I was doing a family call.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think people just jumped on the 'Zoom bandwagon' and assumed it was great, because everyone kept saying how great it was.
Zoom does just work - I've used hangouts/meet, skype, whereby/appear.in, discord, talky Of all those Zoom had the best balance of stability/resource use/call joinability I find meet a PITA to set up and invite random people WebRTC browser chat is great for rooms >= 6 people and is my preferred choice But zoom works pretty well from 1:1 up to 500:1 and is very easy to join Don't get me wrong, I hate the Zoom client bu…
I have to say, I've found both Google Meet and Discord to be more reliable in the "just works" department (despite neither being perfect). My experience with Zoom was a job interview where the link kept asking me to install a browser plugin, even though I already had, even if I clicked a link that was apparently a web fall back.
I think I had to use a phone dial in in the end
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#49Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Skype is dead in the water, has been suffering for years since the push to Teams started. Teams behaves a lot more stable in an enterprise environment, whether that is by design or neglect I'm not sure.
Okay, try this one out. During a Teams call, open up the PulseAudio Volume Control application, which allows the volume to be set differently for each different application. Teams calls itself Skype.
Re: How Zoom works [slides]
#50Title is "How Zoom works". It's a good article with valid points but nothing about Skype. The editorialized title "Turns out Zoom isn't all that different to Skype after all" has no appreciation for how hostile Skype's technology has become in the past 10 years. It went from nicely working Qt program that worked well on OSX, Linux, and Windows to Electron beast that maybe works on Windows, could possibly be mining bi…
Skype was never a nicely working Qt program, I remember articles about their ultra-aggressive anti-reverse engineering coding techniques from 10 years ago or older. They used self-modifying code and undocumented opcodes, active prevention of debuggers and disassemblers, etc., basically every trick in the book to keep someone from finding out what Skype is actually doing.