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Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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I focused a bit on the history of computing when i was getting my CS degree and one of the things I've found super interesting is that for at least forty years (perhaps longer!) we've been at least academically interested in writing code "without writing code". It never really works, however for a technical person it can be a great way to do, like, a sketch.

https://hn.algolia.com/?q=without+writing+code is an interesting search

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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post #3

Looks like a competitor to Retool, interesting. The focus on data permissions, mobile support, and push notifications is really interesting because none of those features are ones that Retool focuses on, I believe - those features being front and center makes me think Amazon has looked at the competition and wants to focus on what they offer that others don't, rather than just trying to be yet-another-tool in the spa…

I find it most similar to bubble.io, which includes databases but also allows linking to external data sources like Airtable.

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

#43

This looks very Tableau-esque. Another tool that takes a similar amount of work to learn compared to just learning programming in the first place, but with more vendor lock-in.

Maybe it also serves as a ramp up to learning programming, but along that ramp you can deliver economic value to your audience, rather than completing CS theory exercises. That's often one of the selling points of this kind of product.

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It's weird that Amazon releases this low-code tool and yet they can't offer basic managed CMS/Wordpress to millions of businesses out there. Their pricing could start at 20 USD per month and they could conquer the premium (wordpress) hosting market dominated by WP Engine, Kinsta, Media Temple, etc.

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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post #17

I'm very eager to see the Office 365 answer to this. Microsoft is the one that needs to come up with a defensive play here, because this is an area where Excel is used in many businesses both small and large. I'm guessing Microsoft could do a better job than AWS integrating this with Excel and the Office 365 or MS Teams kind of UI to make it feel at home to their users. On the other hand, AWS is ahead now and likely…

>>because this is an area where Excel is used in many businesses both small and large

Those people are not going to be giving up Excel for this. I have tried for years to get people to use other better tools than excel, it is a non-starter

Power Excel Users will not stop using Excel for either PowerApps or this AWS Product

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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post #37

A lot of these things can be done with SharePoint. Same thing, no code.

Correct, especially when you add Power Automate and Power Apps - MS have been quietly pulling ahead in this space.

They also have one huge advantage that no-one else besides maybe Google have - integration with Office 365: your corporate directory, email, filestore... Which means they don't even need to be the best at this kind of product. Good enough, plus the integration, is a game changer.

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As an aside: I've been reading the AWS blog posts from Jeff Barr, but ignoring the Amazon Polly audio conversions. I actually listened to it today, and not only is it not terrible, but there's a moment (around 1:05 in or so) where you can actually hear an inhalation! I know @jeffbarr is sometimes in these threads: is that a standard feature of AWS Polly, or is there some preprocessing that is generating SSML to contr…

Thanks for listening to Polly! That's Polly's Matthew voice, there's not special preprocessing, and you can make your own text sound like that.

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

#49

I am working on a product in this space. I think pretty much all the 'no code' apps that are coming out have taken the wrong approach to it. No matter what, they are still 'designed' by programmers with a programming mentality. This will lead to a sort of failure as people will feel limited when using it, and a 'non programmer' mentality looks at this and goes wtf? For example: > =Filter(Tasks,"Tasks[Done] % ORDER BY…

There are much powerful && easier to use no-code/low-code products on the market but sooner or later, you will need to code and work with databases. Even Bubble becomes complex once you move beyond the most basic use cases.

Re: Amazon Honeycode – build web and mobile apps without writing code

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post #7

Ok honestly, my first thought was "here we go again", BUT when you look at the @jeffbar provided, you can see, that yes, it is "visual" programming. It does however require a certain logical fluency. So I was wrong: It is _not_ the sales/ceo dream of no longer having pesky engineers. It's a proper gateway drug into programming.

The most common fallacy across almost 40 years of visual programming attempts is that one can somehow escape the essential complexity of a problem domain. One must have "a certain logical fluency" to design essentially any process, regardless of the technology used.
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