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Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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I'm guessing a project he was working on either wrapped up or got canned. He had previously helped AMD with their Zen architecture.

My guess is he is going back to Apple.

He's been at Apple before. Doubt he'll go back to a place he's been before unless he thinks the landscape has changed enough he can have a really big impact again. I don't think thats the case at Apple.

No - I think he'll go to Nvidia, because he hasn't been there before, hasn't really worked on GPU's before, and because I think GPU's could gain a lot of performance by having someone look at optimizing the big picture, adding the right abstraction layers, and generally making a GPU more CPU-like to allow more execution to be moved to it more easily.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#42

Jim Keller giving a talk on Moore's Law at Berkeley, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG9ztQw2Gc And another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eT1jaHmlx8 And another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnl7--MvNAM DEC, PA Semi, Apple, AMD, Tesla, Intel. He's been everywhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) The internal announcement memo: https://wccftech.com/exclusive-intel-internal-memo-jim-kelle...

I like it when they’re introducing him and during the introduction he was praised for “Zen Architecture”; you can see Jim in the background shaking his head - sign of humility that he is not alone, amazing engineering team that made that happen under his leadership. This kind of humility is rare.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#43

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Why do you say their problem is based in manufacturing?

They have been working on the 10nm manufacturing process for ages and it's still not completely finished. That gave AMD huge opportunity to catch up (which it did).

Nothing stops Intel manufacturing their designs with third parties. Yet they don't.

Either it isn't worth it (too much coupling between fab and designs - not the right abstractions), or institutional inertia stops them doing it.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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My guess is he is going back to Apple.

He's been at Apple before. Doubt he'll go back to a place he's been before unless he thinks the landscape has changed enough he can have a really big impact again. I don't think thats the case at Apple. No - I think he'll go to Nvidia, because he hasn't been there before, hasn't really worked on GPU's before, and because I think GPU's could gain a lot of performance by having someone look at optimizing the big pictur…

Lol my guess is as good as yours and everyone else’s.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#45

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I wish that the interviewer had more background in computer architecture. A lot of these questions wouldn't be asked if he took an architecture class in school. Keller says a lot of interesting things in this interview that aren't followed up on. He calls for more substantial changes and architectural changes, I wonder what he thinks of spatial architectures.

I think the interviewer 'acts' dumb, because then the resulting video requires less pre-knowledge to understand. The video goes from something that 100,000 people with a computer architecture background might watch to something that 10,000,000 people with a tech background might watch.

That's fair, I think you're right.

Selfishly, though, as someone who doesn't work at Intel/nvidia/AMD but is interested in architecture and digital design, it's frustrating how hard it is to find candid opinions from industry experts in comparison to software. Computer architecture just isn't the same in terms of attitude.

One of my favorite things about the computer architecture courses I took was to sit after class and ask my professors about something I'd read about, and more often than not they'd tell me that what I read was bullshit and nobody seriously considered it in the industry, or they'd tell me about something they were excited about that I hadn't heard of. It's hard to get a handle on where the industry is heading and what important people see as the next steps to iterate on.

A general conversation is probably more useful to most people, but there are a lot of times in this conversation where you get the feeling that Keller is right on the precipice of giving an insider prediction of the future, and the topic shifts instead. It's frustrating because those types of conversations are just straight-up difficult to find elsewhere.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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And...back to AMD?

It says "for personal reasons," which is not text I would expect if he was just going to another company.

When someone really has personal reasons, they usually "take a sabbatical" or are "off on sick leave".

For this kind of person, Intel gains a lot simply having his name associated with the company, so would have no qualms giving him years to travel the world on a yacht if he wanted to.

I think it really means "Intel didn't fire me, but I don't want to say any more".

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#47
It's so funny to hear the interviewer explaining to Jim what he understands. All this happening after in the first part of the interview he couldn't compute the answer Jim gave when explaining predicting branches. Also he's in no position to push back on ideas. As if I really care what the interviewer care or not.

It's such a pity the interviewer didn't prepare more technical questions that touch on the new architectures, compilers, cache, TPUs and his design experience. I only care about him asking good questions.

Jim equally seems incredibly engaged and patient with the questions sometime moving the game to a lot higher level than at which the question was posed. Without breaking a sweat.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#48

That’s a huge surprise. For reference, Intel’s stock is down 6.5% today (on what is admittedly a historically bad day for the market to begin with).

I don't know that those are necessarily correlated. The S&P500 is also down by 6%. NVidia is down by 6%. AMD is actually down by 8%

A good person leaving a company drives the company's stock price down. A truly great person leaving a company drives entire industry's stock down.

(tongue in cheek)

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

#49

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They have been working on the 10nm manufacturing process for ages and it's still not completely finished. That gave AMD huge opportunity to catch up (which it did).

Nothing stops Intel manufacturing their designs with third parties. Yet they don't. Either it isn't worth it (too much coupling between fab and designs - not the right abstractions), or institutional inertia stops them doing it.

> Nothing stops Intel manufacturing their designs with third parties. Yet they don't.

It wouldn't surprise me if the reason Keller left is because he wanted to outsource manufacturing to a competitive third party fab, and got denied.

Keller is an a computer architect, but architecture doesn't matter if you can't physically build the thing.

Re: Jim Keller to Depart Intel

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It says "for personal reasons," which is not text I would expect if he was just going to another company.

Also, he's agreed to stay on as a consultant for the next six months, which I assume is not something you'd do if you were planning on working for a competitor at the same time.

6 months is not an atypical non-compete clause length.
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