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Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by MrZongle2 » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 9:44 PM UTC

nix23 wrote: post #4

Well he's absolutely right, but in 20 years when SpaceX owns the only Mars-Colony/City i vote also to breakup SpaceX

If there's a viable Mars colony care of SpaceX in 20 years, I'll happily call for their breakup and sing their praises at the same time.

Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by MrZongle2 » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 9:45 PM UTC

8bithero wrote: post #2

It seems that Blue Origin must be making good progress.

Maybe some day they'll actually reach orbit, instead of just the edge of space.

Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by nix23 » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 9:52 PM UTC

MrZongle2 wrote: post #41

nix23 wrote: post #4

Well he's absolutely right, but in 20 years when SpaceX owns the only Mars-Colony/City i vote also to breakup SpaceX

If there's a viable Mars colony care of SpaceX in 20 years, I'll happily call for their breakup and sing their praises at the same time.

Your are probably disappointed about a corporate owned planet..just saying ;)

Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by heromal » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 10:46 PM UTC

enitihas wrote: post #24

ngokevin wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One issue is they run a marketplace platform where they also sell and push their own products on that platform. People sell products on the platform, Amazon gathers data, and eventually undercuts them out. They can exploit their 50% market share on top of control of the platform to make it almost impossible to compete in many product areas. Not a monopoly perhaps in the definition, but extremely suffocating.

So like every other big retailer? Like Walmart, Costco and many others?

The problem for these people seems to be that Amazon does it far more effectively than other retailers, which isn't really a "break them up now!" kind of argument lol.

Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by kukx » Thu, Jun 04, 2020, 11:37 PM UTC

Elon is right it is insane. We do not want monopolies. And especially monopolies on information, books. I am not convinced that splitting a company by a government is the best solution, however in this case I do not see any other quick way to restore a balance, well maybe Amazon choosing to immediately stop its censorship policy.

Re: Elon Musk calls for breakup of Amazon

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Post by stalled » Fri, Jun 05, 2020, 4:24 AM UTC

nix23 wrote: post #36

enitihas wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Walmart operates in many countries, plus their US only revenue might be larger than Amazon's all retail revenue. Plus Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook operate in nearly all countries, a much bigger number than Amazon. 2. Twitch is restricted to a niche. Facebook video, YouTube, and even TikTok all have more users. 3. This might be correct but this is a very small market. Microsoft has similar market share in Off…

>Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook Not shopping/ecommerce..oh and i never said that google is not a monopoly >Twitch is restricted to a niche Facbook, ~youtube, TikTok ist NOT Livestreaming...also not Zoom or Skype >Biggest seller doesn't make a monopoly When you (Amazon) can make the price because everything other is a loss for you (the producer)..yes then it is a monopoly >How is AWS a monopoly there Yes i wrote t…

TikTok is not primarily livestreaming, but it does have live streams (with live chat overlay on top of video, looking very similar to live streaming interface of Instagram or Periscope)

So apparently TikTok Live is mostly a competitor to those two (and maybe YouNow) but not to widescreen/desktop-oriented streams of Twitch

YouTube Live on the other hand is very much a competitor to Twitch (livestreaming to millions and NOT auto-expiring/deleting past broadcasts by default is something only YouTube can do for now)