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Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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The biggest takeaway, looking past the headline: “This week a federal appeals court, ruling in a case brought by conservative activists against social media companies, affirmed that private websites are not public spaces and social media companies don't have First Amendment obligations. Any truly strong limits to Section 230 would almost certainly require action by Congress.”

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Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

#42
post #32

Really curious to hear the rational from supposedly small government republicans

As much as there ever really were "small government republicans" there certainly aren't any today. "Owning the libs" is the only reason the current batch of conservatives gets out of bed in the morning.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nratv-dan-bongino-my-life-is-...

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #24

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devil's advocate: why doesn't Twitter fact check everyone? Twitter is picking sides on a comment made by a user so they should be held liable for that content

Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exactly what started the whole thing.

People have a right to communicate, if a few platforms have the power to block all communication maybe they should be.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #20

I don't think there is legal basis for Trump's order, but Twitter is wading into murky territory with their actions. Twitter's "fact check" singles out a specific Trump tweet. It's clearly a human intervention by Twitter staff, not user generated content. The subject of Trump's tweet was a political dispute, and while Trump certainly had false statements in his tweet, that's basically par for the course on Twitter. T…

> Why is Twitter singling out Trump for his false statements?

They aren't. They've labeled other tweets before.

> If AOC or Bernie Sanders make false or misleading statements about economics (which they frequently do), will those also receive fact checks and warning labels?

Presumably, yes.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

devil's advocate: why doesn't Twitter fact check everyone? Twitter is picking sides on a comment made by a user so they should be held liable for that content

Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exactly what started the whole thing.

Either they're a public utility or they have control (and thus should have some degree of liability) for what is transmitted/published on their platform. They can't eat their cake and have it too!

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter isn't a public right. He chooses to use their platform so they choose to annotate his lies. I don't see how this executive order would even change exactly what started the whole thing.

IIRC, they are not liable if they just host the comments, not if they endorse them. I guess every comment without a "fake /dubious" label is true? (Cause I'm about to drink a gallon of bleach and eat 2 lbs of raw garlic to ward off Covid as per a tweet's instruction ;) (joking) )

Even if they were the publisher in this scenario and were liable for his comment AND their annotation, there is nothing illegal about it.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #22

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Then he'll claim that he's being censored even more, which is probably exactly what he wants to do to rile up his supporters.

except his supporters won't know about it since he is censored.

The president can't be easily muted in the same way that a non-famous person could. Good or bad, the press will parrot what he says, in any forum.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #4

All because Twitter dared to fact check him.

devil's advocate: why doesn't Twitter fact check everyone? Twitter is picking sides on a comment made by a user so they should be held liable for that content

Because fact checking all of their users would be impossible.

I'd say fact-checking your top-50 users is a good idea, for statements which are completely and unarguably false beyond all doubt.

Re: Trump signs executive order targeting protections for social media companies

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post #4

All because Twitter dared to fact check him.

devil's advocate: why doesn't Twitter fact check everyone? Twitter is picking sides on a comment made by a user so they should be held liable for that content

Visibility is a good metric to use when targeting false information. If an account with 0 followers is sputtering garbage, not much harm is done. But if an account with millions of followers is sputtering garbage, maybe it's more worth the effort.

Beyond that, YouTube has been heavily moderating content on covid. They display labels very similar to the ones Twitter is under fire for now. The only fundemental distinction is everybody agrees the virus is a plague.

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