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Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by michaelt »

snarf21 wrote: post #21
pgrote wrote: post #8

I know it is a simple way to look at it, but Walmart on whole has been a game changer when it came to handling the lockdown. Where Amazon was taking weeks to get "non-critical" items shipped, Walmart had on average a 3 day wait for drive up pick up. They've introduced a yearly fee for delivery and we signed up. It's been top notch. In my area, they outsource the delivery to doordash. Order, pick a time for delivery a…

I don't understand why Walmart doesn't have a customer supplied delivery program. Using the app, you would sign in when you enter the store. It would inform you of any deliveries within X miles of your home. It tells you how much you would be paid in store credit to do those deliveries. So you start shopping with say $33.50 already in your pocket. Then you just drop off a couple of bags at a few houses on your way ho…

> Seems more efficient and cheaper

Option A: You drive to Walmart, pick up your shopping and three other people's, you drive home via three other homes.

Option B: A driver starts at Walmart, picks up four people's shopping including yours, delivers it all, and returns to Walmart.

Seems to me the number of person-hours and distance driven is identical in both cases?

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by ryansmccoy »

tsco77 wrote: post #34
ryansmccoy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking about this as well, I think it has to do with Wal-Marts supply chain, distribution centers, and relationships with it's suppliers. I don't know the answer, but does Wal-Mart have more pull then Amazon? Also, regarding the article, Jet from my memory gave Wal-Mart the infrastructure for online sales, so it's not like they didn't get anything for it. If anything, they are likely playing accounting games…

All their stores are local warehouses, no?

I don't know, here are screen shots (I think) of both Amazon and Wal-Mart Distribution Centers: https://www.evernote.com/l/AUmo-KavWKxI35PFfZRw5wIlQOEf7aFO_...

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

#43

Post by ethagknight »

ryansmccoy wrote: post #15
pgrote wrote: post #8

I know it is a simple way to look at it, but Walmart on whole has been a game changer when it came to handling the lockdown. Where Amazon was taking weeks to get "non-critical" items shipped, Walmart had on average a 3 day wait for drive up pick up. They've introduced a yearly fee for delivery and we signed up. It's been top notch. In my area, they outsource the delivery to doordash. Order, pick a time for delivery a…

I was thinking about this as well, I think it has to do with Wal-Marts supply chain, distribution centers, and relationships with it's suppliers. I don't know the answer, but does Wal-Mart have more pull then Amazon? Also, regarding the article, Jet from my memory gave Wal-Mart the infrastructure for online sales, so it's not like they didn't get anything for it. If anything, they are likely playing accounting games…

I’m removed from it, but I’m told Walmart has massive loyalty with suppliers and product aggregators (not sure on the proper term). There are small-shop businesses with a contract responsible for supplying all of one product to Walmart, and that person is the sole supplier to Walmart, and the contract gets re-bid every few years. For example, there’s a “small business” who has a contract to supply all beef jerky to all Walmart’s in the USA. It’s one of Walmart’s keys to pushing prices down, using these middlemen to negotiate pricing on the hundreds of thousands of SKUs, in a game where shaving a few cents off a jar of pickles is the difference in winning or losing a $100mm pickle supply contract. As compared to Amazon, Walmart still has a quality threshold (it demands pickles that the market expects), Amazon doesn’t. The contractor will lose his contract if his suppliers slip on quality or fail to meet delivery requirements.

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by gwd »

michaelt wrote: post #41
snarf21 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why Walmart doesn't have a customer supplied delivery program. Using the app, you would sign in when you enter the store. It would inform you of any deliveries within X miles of your home. It tells you how much you would be paid in store credit to do those deliveries. So you start shopping with say $33.50 already in your pocket. Then you just drop off a couple of bags at a few houses on your way ho…

> Seems more efficient and cheaper Option A: You drive to Walmart, pick up your shopping and three other people's, you drive home via three other homes. Option B: A driver starts at Walmart, picks up four people's shopping including yours, delivers it all, and returns to Walmart. Seems to me the number of person-hours and distance driven is identical in both cases?

I think the difference would be that you were probably going to come to the store anyway for whatever reason.

So option B is really, "A driver starts at Walmart, picks up three people's shopping, delivers it all, returns to Walmart. You also drive to Walmart, pick up your shopping, and drive home."

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

#46

Post by marcusverus »

sct202 wrote: post #39
pgrote wrote: post #8

I know it is a simple way to look at it, but Walmart on whole has been a game changer when it came to handling the lockdown. Where Amazon was taking weeks to get "non-critical" items shipped, Walmart had on average a 3 day wait for drive up pick up. They've introduced a yearly fee for delivery and we signed up. It's been top notch. In my area, they outsource the delivery to doordash. Order, pick a time for delivery a…

Amazon I think is sandbagging the estimates. We got a gift card during the holidays and decided to spend it, and we're non-prime and put in 2 orders. Both shipping estimates were 1 month out and then suddenly delivered 2 days after the order.

I've noticed the same pattern. Presumably they would rather lose business in the short term (by scaring away time-sensitive shoppers) than risk damage to the brand by delivering late.

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by [deleted] »

sct202 wrote: post #39
pgrote wrote: post #8

I know it is a simple way to look at it, but Walmart on whole has been a game changer when it came to handling the lockdown. Where Amazon was taking weeks to get "non-critical" items shipped, Walmart had on average a 3 day wait for drive up pick up. They've introduced a yearly fee for delivery and we signed up. It's been top notch. In my area, they outsource the delivery to doordash. Order, pick a time for delivery a…

Amazon I think is sandbagging the estimates. We got a gift card during the holidays and decided to spend it, and we're non-prime and put in 2 orders. Both shipping estimates were 1 month out and then suddenly delivered 2 days after the order.

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Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by ryansmccoy »

ethagknight wrote: post #43
ryansmccoy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking about this as well, I think it has to do with Wal-Marts supply chain, distribution centers, and relationships with it's suppliers. I don't know the answer, but does Wal-Mart have more pull then Amazon? Also, regarding the article, Jet from my memory gave Wal-Mart the infrastructure for online sales, so it's not like they didn't get anything for it. If anything, they are likely playing accounting games…

I’m removed from it, but I’m told Walmart has massive loyalty with suppliers and product aggregators (not sure on the proper term). There are small-shop businesses with a contract responsible for supplying all of one product to Walmart, and that person is the sole supplier to Walmart, and the contract gets re-bid every few years. For example, there’s a “small business” who has a contract to supply all beef jerky to a…

Distributors?

Re: Walmart says it will discontinue Jet

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Post by objclxt »

herman_toothrot wrote: post #25
lotsofpulp wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Walmart could have a huge competitive advantage if they advertised that they don’t commingle stock and made it easy to only order shipped and sold by Walmart.com. Although, Walmart also is known for accepting lower quality goods from brands in order to sell them at lower price, which isn’t much different from counterfeits, so I still wouldn’t buy from them.

Do you have an example of an item being sold at Walmart which is a cheaper version packaged as the more expensive version? Genuinely curious, I'm unaware of this...

This is relatively common for big box stores, not just Walmart. Manufacturers might produce retailer specific SKUs to sell at different price points, cutting features or perhaps using lower quality parts.

For example, you might get a TV that shares the same model name, but has multiple SKUs, one of which has fewer HDMI ports or uses panels with a higher dead pixel tolerance.

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