I’m confused ... this says Andorra has >15k people working at dev agencies. The country has a total population of I feel like these numbers don’t add up.
Analysis of dev agencies with hourly rates, team size and tech stack
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#42I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce/web development are all in the $120-$150/hour range. The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn't change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings. Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still clea…
Implying that these dev shops simply won't just hire any college grad with a pulse and pay them 40k to do the same job the Ukrainian did, or worse.
The real problem is the incentive structure, and of course, difficulty of the job that is programming.
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#43Anyone know why they gave a whole section to "Web" and omitted Ruby? Even C and Visual Basic are present.
Because these are agencies. They're often called in to maintain legacy systems, which don't get to use shiny new tech. Hence low or missing numbers for things like Ruby or React, despite their prevalence otherwise.
I only have anecdata but all that I have of it points to agencies being heavy Ruby/Rails users and React as well.
Both of them work well since they impose a structure and programming model that basically works for a lot of business software, so you can focus on the domain problems and move quickly over the standard tasks like an asset pipeline or account management.
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#44Something really, really annoying about this site: it uses automatically-progressing carousels that cause content reflow below them in the page.
I encounter this sort of thing so often, and it’s really, really bad. Positively awful. Super disconcerting.
In most cases like this, it’s just that one slide is longer than the others. In this case, there are a couple like that, but also for the rest, image tags have been used without specifying their dimensions, so they take up no space as the carousel slide enters, and then once the image starts loading they reflow instantaneously as the dimenions are known.
Please, if you have a carousel, you must make sure that its height never changes as it progresses. (And please always put width and height on your images, too, so the intrinsic aspect ratio can be applied properly.)
Oh, and auto-progressing carousels as a whole are a blight, but a sometimes-just-barely-tolerable one. So long as they’ll just stop progressing once I interact with them! Please!
Does anyone like carousels? I encounter software developers railing against them, I encounter normal people railing against them (from recently, a non-techie had one request about a new site, that the carousel inserted by the developer of the prototype—because it was a part of the WordPress theme used—be removed), I honestly can’t think of having encountered a single person that likes carousels. They’re just all-round irritating.
Re: Analysis of dev agencies with hourly rates, team size and tech stack
#45I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce/web development are all in the $120-$150/hour range. The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn't change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings. Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still clea…
The concept of outsourcing for a writing job is weird. You don't see The New Yorker outsourcing their essays to Pakistan, Hollywood outsourcing their scripts to Ukraine, the NYT outsourcing their reporting to the Philippines, etc.
Tech seems to be the only industry that thinks that hiring writers from overseas to produce content is somehow going to result in anything viable.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
My impression is that Andorra has a favourable tax regime and is close to Spain and France...
that's over 20% of every person (including children and the elderly) and the wikipedia page doesn't even mention software.
It's like how every company is incorporated in Delaware and has an "office" in the Caymans.
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#47It'd be really interesting to see more than just averages for rates. Many dev shops I've interacted with are all right around $250/hr here in the US / on coasts, I wonder if there are similar standards elsewhere, or different tiers in different areas.
Re: Analysis of dev agencies with hourly rates, team size and tech stack
#48Something really, really annoying about this site: it uses automatically-progressing carousels that cause content reflow below them in the page. I encounter this sort of thing so often , and it’s really, really bad. Positively awful . Super disconcerting. In most cases like this, it’s just that one slide is longer than the others. In this case, there are a couple like that, but also for the rest, image tags have been…
Re: Analysis of dev agencies with hourly rates, team size and tech stack
#49I oversee the hiring of dev shops for a mid-sized company in the US and the rates for e-commerce/web development are all in the $120-$150/hour range. The funny thing is that some of these companies outsourced to the Ukraine and India and the rates didn't change. I would have thought that we would at least see some of the cost savings. Both companies that outsourced ended up being complete disasters (we are still clea…
The concept of outsourcing for a writing job is weird. You don't see The New Yorker outsourcing their essays to Pakistan, Hollywood outsourcing their scripts to Ukraine, the NYT outsourcing their reporting to the Philippines, etc. Tech seems to be the only industry that thinks that hiring writers from overseas to produce content is somehow going to result in anything viable.
However if you have architects that design software properly in the U.S. and pass those specifications to outsourced staff, then it's akin to a NYT writer dictating his notes to be typed in and proofread by someone overseas.
My point being; there's an efficient way to utilize cheap labor.
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