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The page is a neat and useful visual exercise until the chickens section which just completely breaks all my browsers.

Interestingly, no problem at all with an iPhone SE, a phone packed with 5-year-old technology.

Number of pixels rendered per second is much fewer on SE I suppose.

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#42
These types of pages and articles always draw out a bunch of weirdly sociopathic comments saying things like "mm, delicious" or "now I'm hungry", etc. Why is that?

It's possible to materially enjoy the taste of meat while simultaneously being horrified by the scope of man's destruction and industrialized cruelty. It's entirely another thing to revel in your own ignorance and disinterest of the issue. Really revolting.

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#43

Uncomfortable thoughts: Let's say first world countries in the West get on board with not eating meat anymore. How do you exactly go about telling impoverished countries/peoples to stop eating meat? Would we ban meat and force them to eat some substitutes? But food is an important part of culture and we would be erasing their culture if we did that wouldn't we? Should we give some cultural groups the right to eat mea…

How about setting an example first and not worrying about other countries?

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#44
Some context for the scale of this:

“[F]armed poultry today makes up 70% of all birds on the planet, with just 30% being wild. The picture is even more stark for mammals – 60% of all mammals on Earth are livestock, mostly cattle and pigs, 36% are human and just 4% are wild animals.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/21/human-ra...

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#45
post #15

Just wish it was illegal to show smiling chickens on chicken packs. It desensitize people from treating meat as previously living beings. Ideally each animal product comes with the imagery like one you get now on cigarette packs (but of an animal in a cage/slaughterhouse) + appropriate cost increases for welfare. Recent law introduction of putting 1, 2, 3 stars on animal product packages to signify how well animal wa…

Makes sense to me. At a minimum people should know how reality looks.

Would it work like the warning labels on cigarettes in Europe with diseased lungs on them? Show what a factory farm looks like on the package and if you still want it go for it.

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#47

Where are the entries for deer and fish? Mmmm delicious.

I know these kinds of comments are meant to shut down conversations about meat-eating. Even if you find something delicious, it's possible to reduce consumption to have a positive impact on both the animals and the climate. After all, many of us love sugar (or alcohol or salt or fried snacks) but we control our intake.

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

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Uncomfortable thoughts: Let's say first world countries in the West get on board with not eating meat anymore. How do you exactly go about telling impoverished countries/peoples to stop eating meat? Would we ban meat and force them to eat some substitutes? But food is an important part of culture and we would be erasing their culture if we did that wouldn't we? Should we give some cultural groups the right to eat mea…

Global markets should price in externalities, and leave the moral questions up to each nation.

Cultural imperialism is so last century.

Re: Animals killed since opening this page

#49
post #15

Just wish it was illegal to show smiling chickens on chicken packs. It desensitize people from treating meat as previously living beings. Ideally each animal product comes with the imagery like one you get now on cigarette packs (but of an animal in a cage/slaughterhouse) + appropriate cost increases for welfare. Recent law introduction of putting 1, 2, 3 stars on animal product packages to signify how well animal wa…

It actually would be a great idea if the government encouraged companies (e.g. via tax cuts) to put a photo of real animals (taken on location by an approved government inspector) on the packaging of the meat product. This would create an incentive for companies to treat animals well so that the photo also turns out well and they get a nice tax cut for participating so it can be totally voluntary for companies to participate.

I think creating incentives for companies to be more transparent by offering tax cuts would be a great model for many industries and would give ethical operators a competitive advantage.

IMO, the government should put more focus on creating incentives which encourage positive behaviors because enforcing laws is difficult, expensive and their interpretation is often subjective (hence the need for lawyers).

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