Did anyone get this running on Ubuntu/Mint? When I `sudo apt get install sonic-pi` and start sonic-pi (even with root privileges) the loading screen appears and nothing happens. There are no logged error-messages in the terminal either.
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Sonic Pi is a code-based music creation and performance tool
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#42Did anyone get this running on Ubuntu/Mint? When I `sudo apt get install sonic-pi` and start sonic-pi (even with root privileges) the loading screen appears and nothing happens. There are no logged error-messages in the terminal either.
I second this. I tried a few months ago to get it working and was really frustrated with the state of the build scripts on Ubuntu and variants.
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#43The is doing a/some sessions for githubs conference in a couple of days.
It's happening tomorrow actually: https://githubsatellite.com/schedule/#satellite-kickstart-58...
The entire second stream has a pretty solid lineup of creative/live coding. It’s a horrible TZ to make from Australia, but I’ll be up mainly for that.
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#44Sonic Pi is really fun to play around. However, the editor is fucking abysmal and turns me off every time I try to use it, since I can't use my muscle memory to copy/paste/multiselect and have to otherwise learn another set of keybinding that make no sense whatsoever (instead of CTRL-X to cut you have ALT-X, for example). I wish I were able to use VSCode. I know an extension exists, but it only sends the current file to the Sonic Pi session and has no autocompletion, which is fairly necessary during a live-coding music session to keep the tunes flowing. If I'll ever get around to understand how to develop an extension I'll try my hand at it, I guess.
But otherwise yeah, it's some good stuff and has lots of unexplored potential.
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#45Didn't Joe Armstorng use this to DJ at a Erlang User Conference? Can't find it now, but at least there is this talk from a years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SUdnOUKGmo
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
you can translate your thoughts into sound without having to have any sort of manual dexterity or years of practice
I agree. I spent years of my childhood learning to play the piano. I did not have the patience to practice four hours a day , so I never became more than moderately proficient. And learning to play an instrument does not necessarily mean learning to create music. While playing off sheet music and focusing on dexterity exercises can be rewarding, they are not creative activities. With Sonic Pi you can focus on music c…
> While playing off sheet music and focusing on dexterity exercises can be rewarding, they are not creative activities.
Of all the idiotic things written in the comments of HN (there are plenty...) this has to be, hands down, the most idiotic. There are literally an infinite number of possible expressions in terms of muscle movement & hand / eye coordination involved in an activity like playing the piano & this is BEFORE discussing the activity of using that infinite set of expressions to actually interpret music played from memory, by ear, or from a page. The fact that you think it's not a "creative activity" says more about your lack of creativity than anything else.
Re: Sonic Pi is a code-based music creation and performance tool
#47Sonic Pi is really fun to play around. However, the editor is fucking abysmal and turns me off every time I try to use it, since I can't use my muscle memory to copy/paste/multiselect and have to otherwise learn another set of keybinding that make no sense whatsoever (instead of CTRL-X to cut you have ALT-X, for example). I wish I were able to use VSCode. I know an extension exists, but it only sends the current file…
For those using Atom, I've had some success using this Atom editor plugin: https://atom.io/packages/sb-atom-sonic-pi
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#48How does it compare to csound?
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree. I spent years of my childhood learning to play the piano. I did not have the patience to practice four hours a day , so I never became more than moderately proficient. And learning to play an instrument does not necessarily mean learning to create music. While playing off sheet music and focusing on dexterity exercises can be rewarding, they are not creative activities. With Sonic Pi you can focus on music c…
> While playing off sheet music and focusing on dexterity exercises can be rewarding, they are not creative activities. Of all the idiotic things written in the comments of HN (there are plenty...) this has to be, hands down, the most idiotic. There are literally an infinite number of possible expressions in terms of muscle movement & hand / eye coordination involved in an activity like playing the piano & this is BE…
Ok. Not the person you're quoting, but I _do_ have ~20yrs experience playing piano, and got to a _decent_ level when I was still pursuing tutoring/classes.
There definitely is a creative aspect to interpretation, and I agree it is big (in potential if not how much it is exploited often). However you're playing with fundamentally different building blocks for your artistic expression. Interpretation is much more subtle; you're leaving your own mark on something someone else originally made whereas composition can feel much more like conjuring art out of the ether/your mind. The infinite variations on a piece one can produce are still bounded by the original melody, and are vastly inferior in count/number than the variations of music that can be created "from scratch".
In any case, the parent comment author did not seem to me to have reached a level where they felt comfortable experimenting with interpretation - and may in fact not have achieved the requisite level to begin to be able to actively choose how they interpret pieces beyond "trying to be as accurate to the sheet music as possible". In contrast, if you're improvising, or composing with some kind of software, it is much more approachable to attempt to translate a random idea into music that can be listened to (to judge how close or off the mark our attempt is from our idea).
Basically you can skip the lengthy manual skill acquisition and jump right into playing around with the entire range of sounds and melodies that can be made.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's happening tomorrow actually: https://githubsatellite.com/schedule/#satellite-kickstart-58...
The entire second stream has a pretty solid lineup of creative/live coding. It’s a horrible TZ to make from Australia, but I’ll be up mainly for that.
FYI: "Every session will be recorded and made available soon after it ends. If you’re double-booked or tuning in from a different time zone after the live session time, you can catch up by clicking on past session titles in the Schedule once they are uploaded."