Short term winner in this game will be Salesforce-most of their stuff is on 12 month or 3 year agreements,so it will take time to propagate.
Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
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Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#42Definitely not. My company has been drastically scaling back our AWS spend and I mean about a $10m+ a month reduction. I guarantee we're not alone. All the gee-whiz resume-driven-development type project infrastructure was the first to go lol.
My team reprioritized efficiency over features during the recession, trimming a large amount of unnecessary AWS spend that wasn’t as pressing when the economy was performing well. That specific spend will never come back to AWS, because it was always unnecessary.
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#43Yup. The way cloud sales works makes it seem almost impossible to justify restructuring your infrastructure to your management. It's a genius sales strategy.
It's pretty easy to cut down clusters to the minimum number of nodes for them to function (say cutting 10 servers to 2), or downgrade the size of instances to compensate for lower traffic. There's no need to restructure infrastructure in most cases, if anything using a cloud provider makes this easier.
Aren't you making gp's point for him?
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#44Yup. The way cloud sales works makes it seem almost impossible to justify restructuring your infrastructure to your management. It's a genius sales strategy.
Can you explain how that works please?
To paraphrase the "sibling" post:
If you've invested the effort and personnel in being able to move from some cloud provider to some other cluster/cloud solution, it probably already makes sense to just get your own servers and move yourself there, since you're basically capable of doing that (and your costs will be cut by a large factor).
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#45Definitely not. My company has been drastically scaling back our AWS spend and I mean about a $10m+ a month reduction. I guarantee we're not alone. All the gee-whiz resume-driven-development type project infrastructure was the first to go lol.
Pretty sure a typo and the million wanted to be a kilo?
$120m/year for apparently unnecessary IT capacity would be hard to hide even in government contracts...
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#46What everyone is missing here is that cloud is a secular growth trend. It's not that it's recession proof but rather that it will be growing less fast in a down economy but still growing.
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#47The cloud is the opposite of recession proof. Why do you use the cloud in the first place? Flexibility, scale, ease of operations. What are you gonna do with your servers during a recession, put them on Craigslist? Are you gonna put your entire datacenter on there too? The same mechanic that makes the cloud attractive in the first place is what will bring the hammer down in a serious recession. Companies will turn ev…
You can significantly reduce your power bill by turning the servers off.
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#48Definitely not. My company has been drastically scaling back our AWS spend and I mean about a $10m+ a month reduction. I guarantee we're not alone. All the gee-whiz resume-driven-development type project infrastructure was the first to go lol.
Pretty sure a typo and the million wanted to be a kilo? $120m/year for apparently unnecessary IT capacity would be hard to hide even in government contracts...
Its AWS. Isn't "obscure high costs" the name of the game? But now people have the time and incentive to dig into those costs more critically.
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#49Definitely not. My company has been drastically scaling back our AWS spend and I mean about a $10m+ a month reduction. I guarantee we're not alone. All the gee-whiz resume-driven-development type project infrastructure was the first to go lol.
My team reprioritized efficiency over features during the recession, trimming a large amount of unnecessary AWS spend that wasn’t as pressing when the economy was performing well. That specific spend will never come back to AWS, because it was always unnecessary.
I’m sure new unnecessary spending will creep in as time goes on.
Re: Is the Cloud Recession-Proof?
#50Yup. The way cloud sales works makes it seem almost impossible to justify restructuring your infrastructure to your management. It's a genius sales strategy.
It's pretty easy to cut down clusters to the minimum number of nodes for them to function (say cutting 10 servers to 2), or downgrade the size of instances to compensate for lower traffic. There's no need to restructure infrastructure in most cases, if anything using a cloud provider makes this easier.
It's "easy" to do this, but it's also just as "easy" for your service to fall over when you do it wrong. Capacity planning and performance engineering is a lost art in a world where you would simply throw money at the problem until it went away.