The pervert's guide to computer programming languages (2017) [video]

Post by LandR » Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 12:03 AM UTC

ur-whale wrote: post #24

dang wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such things can still make a fine Hacker News submission. " Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> A good critical comment teaches us something Feel free to discard point number one of my post if you enjoy watching that kind of tripe. Point number two of my post teaches us not to waste 30 minutes of our lives watching something that serves no practical purpose whatsoever.

Post by im3w1l » Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 AM UTC

joe_the_user wrote: post #6

Just started. It's a use of contemporary "continental" psychology (Lacanian and Zizekian psychoanalysis) to consider the irrational choices that go into programming language. It's kind of out-there but anything that gives a wider view of the choices programmers make might be useful. Edit: Watching a bit. I would view the quandary the presenter is discussing thus. Human being are both power-seeking, ego-gratifying bei…

Post by DonHopkins » Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 12:26 AM UTC

joe_the_user wrote: post #20

covidacct wrote: post #11

This talk is an amusing aside. I think the other posters are bit harsh for a talk that's clearly meant to be taken in that way. If you're interested in actual psychology of programming languages, there is a small but growing research community at the intersection of programming languages and software engineering. The focus is mostly on usability research a la human-computer interaction, but there's also work on commu…

Well, various parts are taken amusingly but I think this is aiming to be a serious inquiry into the psychology of programming language choice , which a bit different from the psychology of actually programming. Language choice is much wrapped up with power and ideology, areas that Zizek etc focus on strongly.

Post by Der_Einzige » Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 12:28 AM UTC

joe_the_user wrote: post #13

mettamage wrote: post #8

Psychoanalysis: psychologists that don't do experiments, according to my university. Because of this they were briefly covered during one lecture and then completely tossed aside. Psychology != experimental psychology Yes, experimental psychologists have a field that almost completely crumbled, but at least they (1) admitted it and (2) some of them try to conduct science and succeed at it (most don't succeed unfortun…

The video does a decent job of explaining the relevance of Lacanian-Zizekian theory. The approach isn't really aiming to be equivalent to experimental psychology. Rather, it's a view of strategy in personal interactions.

Post by DonHopkins » Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 12:30 AM UTC

Der_Einzige wrote: post #44

DonHopkins wrote: post #40

Here's something a friend of mine wrote about one of Žižek's movies: >I don’t usually recommend movies, but I really got a lot out “The perverts guide to ideology“ >Essentially it’s a well presented theory that any particular ideology is a sum of components that can be combined to create a complete undeniable way of living. Nationalism, ethnicity, religion, atheism, capitalism, socialism (and many others) are all com…

I was about to make the comment about the Zizek connection but you beat me to it! Fun fact, Zizek came in a very close 4th place for President of Solvenia in 1990. I was shocked that he almost became a legitimate president back in the day.