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Re: Privacy Not Included

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post #39

Is Mozilla's new browser on Android not included on that list? It contains 3 trackers [1]: Adjust Google Firebase Analytics LeanPlum It also has telemetry selected by default and is NOT opt-in. So yeah, whether it's hardware or software, you're being spied on any time you use an internet connected device. [1]: https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/reports/org.mozilla...

Yeah it seems incredibly hypocritical to not put their own products on here.

Re: Privacy Not Included

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post #5

What is Mozilla doing? They are endorsing the 'Google Home'? The 'Ring Doorbell'? Products from Nest? I guess it makes sense, with the amount of money they get from Google- they have to. While these devices might have encryption, security updates, etc, many of the devices listed ABUSE user privacy. Many of the devices here ARE creepy! I could provide 10 links as proof, but it's not even worth the time. You can go ahe…

You didn't look very closely at the website and just jumped to conclusions, didn't you? They rank all the ones you mentioned as "Super creepy".

The "creepy" factor is a user-rating, Mozilla IS saying these are endorsed (hence the "wreath").

Re: Privacy Not Included

#45
post #31

Facebook Portal meets your "strict" privacy standards? GTFO Mozilla, stick to web browsers

HAHA! What an absolutely trash service, in that page it says:

> Facebook says that it does not listen to, view or keep the contents of any video or audio calls on your Portal.

No mentions about on their servers though, which we know they do!

How do I report articles on HN for misleading trash? This needs to be deleted from the internet.

How dare they give 5* to a fucking FB property.

Re: Privacy Not Included

#46
post #25

I wanted to give everyone a heads up here, this is genuinely a terrible site. I like the things mozilla does more generally. But this site... These product listings are USER RATED! And they're sorted based on users ratings. General users will vote for anything positive to indicate they like it , and anything negative to indicate they hate it. "Is this product good value?" "Yes." "Is this a luxury product?" "Yes." "Is…

Also, you have to vote on a product to see its "creepiness" rating breakdown? I would supposedly be using this site before purchasing a product, how would I know how "creepy" it is? This site seems more akin to a Buzzfeed quiz than a Mozilla project.

That said I think this idea has a lot of potential, but this is perhaps not the best form for it to take.

Re: Privacy Not Included

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I'm feeling this is well-meaning but really misguided, in multiple ways.

Mostly context-free. I'm guessing they're targeting mostly non-technical, retail consumers. Which is fine, but raises a number of other questions. Like, why is Mozilla especially well-positioned to review consumer electronics? And why are random consumers going to trust Mozilla?

Related, but this reinforces several bad messages about security:

- That it is an objective, scalar property of a thing,

- That "one size fits all",

- That infosec is a shopping exercise, not a process the user has to participate in.

Also, just, why? Who really thinks there's a Mozilla-shaped hole in the shopping-guide world?

Re: Privacy Not Included

#50
Am I the only person who dislikes the word "creepy"? It is of unclear meaning, and is based on emotion (even prejudice) rather than reasoned judgement.

My concerns for my own privacy are not grounded in some emotional dislike of "creepiness", they are grounded in reasonable apprehension of the potential negative real world consequences.

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