I hope that Zoom will make it easier to use their web client because of this.
Yes. Google still allow that. The ban is on the app/installer.
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#42God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.
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#43What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach.
My understanding is that 'generally' for a lot of things Google lets teams decide what tools best fit their needs.
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#44God please don't make me use a non-zoom video conferencing tool! I have used about a dozen over the years in my role as a consultant, and Zoom has been by far the most reliable. I’m hopeful lots of good can come from the scrutiny, but please Zoom get your act together so I don’t have to use some other buggy thing that doesn’t actually work.
I knew I would get downvoted. But folks seriously don’t remember the pain before Zoom. And the current pain anytime we have to use a GoToMeeting, Google Meet, Webex or other tool that barely functions.
Human interaction that actually works right now is so important. And I simply have a hard time trusting another product to actually do the call reliably
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#45Hangouts is not that bad
Yeah, it's working, sometimes for most of the participants. Than turns your computer into a toaster before it clogs it completely.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's google, so probably they have at least 3 and one of them will be deprecated every year
Duo, Meets and Hangouts... off the top of my head. With various levels of being merged or not.
Anyone remember Google Allo? I think it had video? If they made it a discord kind of thing it might have worked but instead they chose to compete with their own products.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What's surprising to me is that it was allowed before. > They have had their own videochat solution for years, so I would expect the usual "eat your own dogfood" approach. If an engineer from Microsoft has to speak to an engineer from Google, and you think they should both be dog-fooding their own video application... how do you see that working? Just both dig their feet in and never talk to each other? Seems silly…
> If an engineer from Microsoft has to speak to an engineer from Google, and you think they should both be dog-fooding their own video application... how do you see that working? They could use a telephone. (Yes, they still exist.) Edit for response: Neither Google nor Microsoft forbid their employees from using telephones, and neither would even consider it. The assumption that they'd dogfood their own video chat pl…
> They could use a telephone.
Well that's example of what I suggested they'd have to do - use someone else's service.
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#48Hangouts is not that bad
hangouts isn't bad at all. Dumb product decision to only be able to see 4 people at once tho. Probably biggest reason people are on Zoom and not hangouts right now
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Corporate devices should be for work. Especially if you're sheltering-in-place anyway and you're not even physically at the office.
It's surprisingly common for people not to own a non-work computer other than a phone/tablet, especially now that prevalence of desktop computers is declining. Some people do still have a home desktop, or a separate personal laptop, but a lot of people I know don't. Or they might have one but it's a shared family computer that's mostly used by the kids, while parents use their work laptops.
This is correct.When all this Corona thing started,we put the entire office on remote. Before we did it,we had to assess who's got what at home. In my department it was about 20% without a laptop/pc. In others was similar.We simply gave company's PC to take home and called it a day. It's a small company, so obviously things are simpler here.
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Googlers don't use Zoom for company work. It was banned as in it can no longer be installed on corp laptops.
Right but it's also astonishing that was allowed before. If it's not needed for work why would it be installed? Why would any non-work software be allowed on corp laptops?
Because sometimes there are contractors, or consultants, or vendors, or partners you work with that for one reason or another can't use internal options.