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Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by usrusr »

joncrane wrote: post #5
runawaybottle wrote: post #3

Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

And top e-sports drivers will likely have far more hours behind the virtual wheel than the real drivers have in reality and virtual combined.

I used to do online ww2 combat flight sim as a hobby and one day I realized that all those virtual aces had not only the skill advantage of virtual death trial and error, most had also been flying virtual ww2 planes for longer than than the entire duration of the original war (in years, not in stick-hours).

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by sixothree »

joncrane wrote: post #5
runawaybottle wrote: post #3

Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

Also the drivers are backed by huge teams. This is the part of the sport that makes it so much fun. The physical aspect of the pit stops & the strategy and the pains that causes.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by lozaning »

C1sc0cat wrote: post #17
sprsquish wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your point about not feeling the car is a big part of what makes driving a simulator so difficult. Every part of a real car is giving the driver direct feedback into various parts of their body. How hard they are on the brake and throttle. Small changes in lateral g-force let them know how close to the edge of traction they are. The screen isn't going to be the same as the real world. The only feedback you ge…

Its the shear physical impact on the driver - I recall seeing drivers having difficulty at the end of the race getting out of the car.

I've heard that nascar drivers can lose up to 8 pounds in sweat over the course of a race. The constant forces on your body for that long have to take a physical toll on your body.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by jfk13 »

toyg wrote: post #39
dlbucci wrote: post #23

There's always Marbula 1: https://youtu.be/55iTYdRDG4s I don't even watch F1 but this has me addicted.

Man, that’s boring. This is what you should watch instead: https://youtu.be/agNt0jFdgr0

Looks like a bootleg re-upload of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cBHmu_cNww ; please don't promote stolen content.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by Ididntdothis »

Someone wrote: post #14
joncrane wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

You were downvoted but I tend to agree. Even karting costs in the tens of thousands per year once you want to be competitive. You have to either have well off parents or live in good circumstances like Schumacher whose father worked at a track. And there is almost no amount of talent that can compensate for new tires and a rebuilt engine at every race.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by Ididntdothis »

kayoone wrote: post #22
Someone wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

That's a bit harsh on F1 drivers tbh. Sure, ultimately you need money, but Senna started early in Karting and was already showing great talent there allowing him to get financial backing and support that helped him further his career. He went through a lot of Karting and open wheel racing until finally reaching F1. You don't get there just by money, at least the top5 guys have mostly won everything there is to win be…

Senna came from a super rich family. A regular person will have trouble affording karting even at the lowest level. I used to have a race kart and even with a job the tires, engines and other parts are barely affordable.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by omegabravo »

w-m wrote: post #4
runawaybottle wrote: post #3

Is the game a good enough simulator? Should real drivers be the best F1 streamers with a good wheel setup? This is really pushing the notion of work from home.

In the Netflix series, Drive to Survive, you could see one of the younger drivers (I don't recall who it was) play the Codemasters game at home. It didn't look like exposition or product placement, but rather like something that they regularly did to train.

Season 2 - Episode 5, they showed Pierre Gasly with his basic home setup. ~25min

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by radley »

Someone wrote: post #14
joncrane wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. In the less formal event last Sunday, the e-sports drivers dominated the race and the highest finishing "real" F1 driver was in 8th, and incredibly proud of that achievement. Edit: this is for a variety of reasons. The greatest of which is that when you're actually going 200 MPH and risking hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage, and moreso your own life and limb and those of your competitors, your risk avers…

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

I recommend checking out the Formula 1 series on Netflix. Sure, a few drivers come from money & connections, but others earned their position by winning races in their youth.

Re: Formula 1 launches Virtual Grand Prix Series to replace postponed races

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Post by Ididntdothis »

radley wrote: post #48
Someone wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think the physical aspects aren’t the largest barrier to entry. As one could bluntly state it: because it takes a lot of money and connections to even be considered as a driver, it is statistically highly unlikely that, talent-wise, the current F1 drivers are in the top 1% or even top 25% of the world. If Senna were born in tropical Africa, or even if he hadn’t had wealthy parents, he probably wouldn’t ever h…

I recommend checking out the Formula 1 series on Netflix. Sure, a few drivers come from money & connections, but others earned their position by winning races in their youth.

You can’t race in your youth if you don’t have serious money. You don’t have to be super wealthy but you need to be able to spend probably tens of thousands per year before you can make a name for yourself.
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