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Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

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#41
(2014)

> Plenty of conferences and magazines feature interviews with Andreessen where he talks about the future. What’s difficult is getting a man so excited about the future to talk about the past. The following is the story of how Andreessen became Andreessen… rarely told at a Pando event in 2014.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#42

>> Those companies have to be run completely differently because the stakes are so much higher. I can't dismiss Elons drive, ability to get his hands dirty, and many other characteristics. But the primary difference I see in this comparison is simply risk aversion. YC and their VCs are in it to make money by placing a number of small bets, knowing some will be losers. To go big like SpaceX requires you to be all in.…

> He's willing to take that risk because he's in it for the results, not the money. Well put. Whatever anyone has to say about the man, the most incredible thing about Elon is that he finds ways to pursue his crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable.

> crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable

His main ideal, making humanity multi-planetary, requires a great deal of profitability, because it's almost nobody else's goal.

My opinion is that he will, when the time is right, sell his holdings in Tesla and dump all of that right back into SpaceX or whatever entity is pushing the ball forward.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#43
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're referring to what I call "pop Austrianism," and that's definitely an adjacent issue. Austrianism is a rationalistic theory of economics. By rationalistic in this context I mean it's not empirical. It's the sort of thing you get when smart people sit around and reason through something and come to a conclusion based on that alone without bothering to observe, experiment, or evaluate their ideas in practice. A w…

I may be way of my field here, but my understanding is that the whole point of the Austrian school is that human behavior is (purposeful, but) unpredictable. This is a testable claim, and you can bother to observe, experiment and test this claim. Austrians should accept they are wrong if you can empirically prove that humans behavior is predictable. But if this claim is correct, there's no reason for you to do empiri…

What Austrians fail to grasp is that human behavior is quite predictable at the population level, or for large groups in general. This is the entire basis of game theory, marketing, sociology, etc. Unsurprisingly, Austrians refuse to acknowledge that economics is subject to science and do not recognize entire fields such as statistics.

It's true that the actions of single individuals cannot be fully predicted, but that's not necessary. Any level of insight is enough to form the basis of a scientific theory. In other words, mainstream economists do not claim that they can perfectly model human behavior, but they do (rightly) claim that they can make educated guesses which are correct more often than not.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#44

>> Those companies have to be run completely differently because the stakes are so much higher. I can't dismiss Elons drive, ability to get his hands dirty, and many other characteristics. But the primary difference I see in this comparison is simply risk aversion. YC and their VCs are in it to make money by placing a number of small bets, knowing some will be losers. To go big like SpaceX requires you to be all in.…

> He's willing to take that risk because he's in it for the results, not the money. Well put. Whatever anyone has to say about the man, the most incredible thing about Elon is that he finds ways to pursue his crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable.

He talked about this in an interview.

Something to the effect of 'When I was in college, I tested how little I could live on. Turns out rice and beans are really cheap. So even if I fail, I'm not going to starve.'

Admittedly, kids and spouses change ones opinion on that, but it's a fair way to keep perspective, even after becoming rich.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#45

>> Those companies have to be run completely differently because the stakes are so much higher. I can't dismiss Elons drive, ability to get his hands dirty, and many other characteristics. But the primary difference I see in this comparison is simply risk aversion. YC and their VCs are in it to make money by placing a number of small bets, knowing some will be losers. To go big like SpaceX requires you to be all in.…

I think that going all in is a requirement to actually solve anything new. Money is not enough, you need someone to start the work and crack open doors. Funding is necessary for them but so not enough..

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#46
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He's [Musk] got a physics degree and has the raw intelligence and passion to understand aerospace engineering. musk was nearly laughed out of early meetings because he basically knew nothing about aerospace engineering and was viewed as just a guy with a lot of money, enthusiasm, and naivety. i have never seen any indication that he understands as much as people freely give him credit for. > Bezos ... is not techni…

> musk was nearly laughed out of early meetings I'm almost sure he'd be laughed out of many meetings today, if his name would be different - i.e. nobody would think he's behind SpaceX vision. Not all meetings, but many. Imagining an aerospace professional - somebody in a position of Tony Bruno talking with a guy John Smith, when that John Smith describes similar vision and approaches to SpaceX, I can too easily imagi…

* Tory Bruno[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory_Bruno

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#47

To me, the next great challenge of our time isn't finding the next SpaceX, but gradually dismantling the corporate dogma of full employment. The short-term goals should be along the lines of getting to a 30-hour work week, a single-payer healthcare system, free college and UBI from an automation moonshot. The long-term goals should be about how to get everyone in the world self-actualized, but doing it sustainably so…

that sounds very much like what world should be.. thankfully in my country (finland) we have these "free college", "free healthcare system", but 30 hour work week, nope, and seeing the old people running the show, never will happen..

star trek is inspirational to what future should go toward "betterment of one self" instead of getting gold.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> He's willing to take that risk because he's in it for the results, not the money. Well put. Whatever anyone has to say about the man, the most incredible thing about Elon is that he finds ways to pursue his crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable.

> crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable His main ideal, making humanity multi-planetary, requires a great deal of profitability, because it's almost nobody else's goal. My opinion is that he will, when the time is right, sell his holdings in Tesla and dump all of that right back into SpaceX or whatever entity is pushing the ball forward.

Which, if he meets all the goals of Musk's incentive schedule at Tesla, will be about $55 billion[1].

[1]https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-compensation...

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#49
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> crazy ideals while somehow staying profitable His main ideal, making humanity multi-planetary, requires a great deal of profitability, because it's almost nobody else's goal. My opinion is that he will, when the time is right, sell his holdings in Tesla and dump all of that right back into SpaceX or whatever entity is pushing the ball forward.

Which, if he meets all the goals of Musk's incentive schedule at Tesla, will be about $55 billion[1]. [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-compensation...

Yup! I don't think that structure is a coincidence.

Re: Risky Business: Interview with Marc Andreessen (2018)

#50

To me, the next great challenge of our time isn't finding the next SpaceX, but gradually dismantling the corporate dogma of full employment. The short-term goals should be along the lines of getting to a 30-hour work week, a single-payer healthcare system, free college and UBI from an automation moonshot. The long-term goals should be about how to get everyone in the world self-actualized, but doing it sustainably so…

Old Star trek. The new stuff imagines a vastly different future.
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