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New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by cryptoz »

chc wrote: post #34
inaequitas wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's up to apps to implement it. But why, do you honestly think it will get in the way anywhere besides IDEs (and maybe not even there...)? This is an honest question because I can't really think of instances where I wouldn't want something like this. I'm spoiled by Notational Velocity, which saves automatically, and by iPad apps for same. I have Coda and TextMate set to save when they lose focus so I don't lose work…

Some people actually do use a large percentage of their hard drives.

Those people are exceedingly rare. And I'm sure applications won't autosave huge files; if they do there would be large performance hits. Most files that need autosaving are basic documents, maybe pictures. 99.9% of the time autosaving is a good idea.

If your autosave makes you run out of disk space, you're probably "doing it wrong".

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by snsr »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #5
goalieca wrote: post #2

Is there any news on the invisible parts of Lion? Snow Leopard brought us OpenCL, Clang, Grand Central, and these other cool technologies. Will we finally have resolution independent displays??

Resolution independence - IMO that's never gonna happen. Apple will do the pixel-doubling thing, I reckon. Netkas has confirmed the following about Lion: ( http://netkas.org/?p=609 ) >Lion requires hardware with a Core 2 Duo processor or better. A lot of apps are sandboxed. OpenGL 3.2 support

You reckon correcly; Lion apparently has support for 'HiDPI' mode, which is essentially pixel doubling.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/24/mac-os-x-lion-building-i...

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by mcav »

warp wrote: post #32
vital101 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if there is any kind of copyright infringement with http://www.versionsapp.com/ ?

Copyright sounds unlikely, trademark perhaps. Looks like Sofa is dutch, I wonder if they took the time/effort/money to register trademarks in the US.

I don't see anything for either Apple or Sofa for "Versions" after a brief search at uspto.gov.

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by catch23 »

chc wrote: post #33
nathos wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

…but it doesn't install updates and restart your computer without permission.

Unless I'm misremembering, unless you ask for detailed information about the updates, it doesn't tell you ahead of time if it's going to ask to restart your computer. It just says basically, "There are updates available. Do you want them?"

you're probably misremembering -- there's a little arrow next to the update items which require a reboot, and even after installing everything, you can still choose to reboot later. I still have a system running Tiger so I don't think it's changed since then.

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by achompas »

dstorrs wrote: post #37

The primary focus here (understandably) is "we make your laptop look / work like your iPad". Versions, AirDrop, etc are tacked on at the end and given much less focus. The problem with making my laptop work like an iPad is that the laptop is a general purpose computer and the iPad is not.[1] The genius of the iPad was that it was a specialized device built for a single purpose: consuming media anywhere, anytime. It h…

These iPad features are Apple's latest attempts at simplifying the general-purpose computing experience. So:

>The Mac App Store is a central app clearinghouse.

>Launchpad gives users a better way to look through apps (no more Applications folder or bloated dock).

>True full-screen apps have been missing from OS X for years, and these remove clutter.

>Mission Control is the full-screen version of the iOS multitasking bar. More user-friendly than Apple-Tab.

>Resume & Auto-Save reproduce that "persistent app" feeling from iOS.

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by Tycho »

FiddlerClamp wrote: post #18

Versions and Resume look cool, but Launchpad? Do people really need a full view of all the (dozens) of apps they have installed? I thought we were getting away from that with Quicksilver and other 'find as you type' tools. Launchpad seems like Program Manager from the olden days of Windows.

Hmm, one of my fave features of 10.6 is that I can put the Applications folder in the dock and then set it to pop up as a big scrollable grid of items when I click it. Now the thing is, most users would never get round to setting that up themselves, so Apple have just cut-out that extra step and made this default behaviour. So it's not a big deal but it is a smart move which many people will like, IMO.

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by alphakappa »

dstorrs wrote: post #37

The primary focus here (understandably) is "we make your laptop look / work like your iPad". Versions, AirDrop, etc are tacked on at the end and given much less focus. The problem with making my laptop work like an iPad is that the laptop is a general purpose computer and the iPad is not.[1] The genius of the iPad was that it was a specialized device built for a single purpose: consuming media anywhere, anytime. It h…

What are you gaining? The ability to resume working where you left off (so you can reboot your computer after updates and not worry about having to shut down everything). The ability to use your computer full-screen and switch to other apps also in full screen. Better management of memory and processes so that you don't have to care about Ctrl+Qing applications.

These are pretty good lessons they've learned from the iPad user experience. There's no reason why a laptop shouldn't learn from the experiences of other platforms.

Re: New Mac OS X Lion features announced: Version Control, Instant Resume

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Post by jmah »

masklinn wrote: post #24
qjz wrote: post #3

Note that what they refer to as "Versions" isn't really version control. It would more accurately be referred to as snapshots, as it simply performs a backup when opening a document, then an hourly backup while it's open. This is a bit to arbitrary to be considered version control. Nonetheless, it might be useful to undisciplined users, if the snapshots are easy to access and the feature isn't well hidden. Also note…

Basically, Versions looks like a better and simpler application-level Time Machine integration (TM can already be integrated into applications, though that's now widely known and almost never used. Apart from Finder, I only found out Mail and iPhoto using it)

The API for that is still private and undocumented, though.
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