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Young and unafraid of the pandemic? Good for you. Now stop killing people

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Post by chrisco255 »

keeganjw wrote: post #15

They make a good point in this article, I just wish Newsweek and other media outlets would get this pissed off about climate change. "Old and unafraid of the climate crisis? Good for you. Now stop killing future generations." If we're mobilizing to stop a pandemic, why the hell aren't we mobilizing to stop climate change? I know this is going to get downvoted into oblivion, I just wanted to say it.

Nobody is dying from global warming. It's a sea level rise of 2-3mm a year. Less than 11,000 people a year die from natural disasters, which is near all-time lows despite a rising population. 100 years ago, it was common for at least 1,000,000 people a year to die from natural disasters. Thanks to technology, including internal combustion vehicles and electricity, that number has dropped dramatically. Crop yields are up almost 100% since the 80s for many crops, including staples like corn, wheat, and soybeans. We're able to feed more people than ever before. Also, winters are far more deadly than summers.

Source for the data: https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters Zoom out back to 1900 and see how much the world has improved.

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Post by The_Colonel »

gre wrote: post #26
nostoc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not ageist nonsense. This is aimed directly at the rampant discourse of " only the elderly dies, why should I bother" ?

It's an ageist and offensive narrative to say that young people are saying that phrase and acting it out like they don't care about killing their elders.

I would agree with you, if only I would have not heard this exact "actually it's not so bad, mortality is super low unless you are old or sick already" in the real life way too many times.

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Post by mattnewton »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #27
keeganjw wrote: post #15

They make a good point in this article, I just wish Newsweek and other media outlets would get this pissed off about climate change. "Old and unafraid of the climate crisis? Good for you. Now stop killing future generations." If we're mobilizing to stop a pandemic, why the hell aren't we mobilizing to stop climate change? I know this is going to get downvoted into oblivion, I just wanted to say it.

I was making a related comment to my coworkers earlier this week: if the stock market is this freaked about covid19, just wait til investors realize climate change is real and it will be hard to make money while NYC is flooded and nobody wants to buy oil anymore.

I think people know and just believe there will either be a magical human engineered solution that solves the problem or lots of time to find a greater fool before it gets that bad.

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Post by sli »

This is real easy to say to people who largely don't get sick days, oftentimes don't have PTO, and are far more likely to be unable to absorb a week without pay. If I take off work because I'm sick, I simply lose that money. Young people continue life like nothing is wrong because doing otherwise is not an option.

Re: Young and unafraid of the pandemic? Good for you. Now stop killing people

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Post by jshevek »

shakezula wrote: post #19
keeganjw wrote: post #15

They make a good point in this article, I just wish Newsweek and other media outlets would get this pissed off about climate change. "Old and unafraid of the climate crisis? Good for you. Now stop killing future generations." If we're mobilizing to stop a pandemic, why the hell aren't we mobilizing to stop climate change? I know this is going to get downvoted into oblivion, I just wanted to say it.

I can't agree with this enough. The media seems willing to be alarmist about everything _but_ the most important crisis my generation will ever face.

Part of the problem here is that extremists have subjected us to at least three decades of climate alarmism poisoned by bad science and failed predictions. People who lack the scientific background to properly understand specific claims and the basis for them rely on ignorant heuristics, such as "the boy who cried wolf". They wrongly conclude that the current round of climate concern is no different than the rounds they've previously experienced.

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Post by prox »

tra3 wrote: post #6

> Do not go to places where you are more than 20 people in the same room. It's not safe and it's not worth it. Why 20? Is this simply about reducing exposure to potential carriers?

Yeah, it’s a numbers game. If you don’t know who has it, less people is less chance. Also contact tracing is easier when you’ve only met x amount of people.

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

cadence- wrote: post #23

All the “rich media” on that website makes me cringe. And I think I just blew past my monthly mobile data limit just to read this article. Horrible.

Newsweek is garbage, and has been at least since they "outed" "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Re: Young and unafraid of the pandemic? Good for you. Now stop killing people

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Post by maerF0x0 »

stetrain wrote: post #31

Lots of reacting to the title here. Which, granted, is sensationalist. I think this nicely sums up the article's point: "It's the civic and moral duty of every person, everywhere, to take part in the global effort to reduce this threat to humanity. To postpone any movement or travel that are not vitally essential, and to spread the disease as little as possible. Have your fun in June, July and August when this—hopefu…

> civic and moral duty of every person

According to which canon? I find it slightly narcissistic to claim that I would have a moral right to someone else's behavior when it's well within my ability to take preventative steps for my own safety (Wash my hands, dont leave my house, and in between as my risk tolerance allows).

It's a little like someone saying "You all owe me X because I exist". Do we also owe it to the immunocompromised?

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Post by malka »

keeganjw wrote: post #15

They make a good point in this article, I just wish Newsweek and other media outlets would get this pissed off about climate change. "Old and unafraid of the climate crisis? Good for you. Now stop killing future generations." If we're mobilizing to stop a pandemic, why the hell aren't we mobilizing to stop climate change? I know this is going to get downvoted into oblivion, I just wanted to say it.

Help to fight climate change. Kill old people with the corona virus.
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