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Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, alternatively, everyone's freaking out over something that just isn't as big a deal as everyone's making it out to be.

The risks of not freaking out and it decimating the populace should easily outweigh the risks of freaking out and it not having an impact. It's very difficult to even rationalize the latter because a freakout might mean the impact is negligible.

At this point more than enough data exists to show the population will not be decimated.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Denmark has a substantial safety net with generous parental leave policies. Accordingly, it would expected that one parent or relative could help out without impacting their own income and job security.

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

Our kindergarten is currently preparing for just that. Which parents have other options of day care, who can have kids at home, who can take additional kids. I understood that to be something city wide. I have no problem having three instead of two kids at home, I working from home anyway, so if I have my own kids or an additional one doesn't make much of a difference for me. But it does for other parents.

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Only days ago, a Denmark university professor openly claimed ( actually more like lashed out ) at Hong Kong people /students over-reacting with CoronaVirus and there is no need to wear masks.

I guess that didn't age well. Still wish more people have trusted the advice from HK from our experiences with SARS and how to handle information from CCP.

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post #26

All of these shutdowns, especially the large ones recently announced, raise the question: how long? How long do we continue and what criteria will be used to begin opening things back up? How long before other parts of the economy begin to fail?

In Denmark it's 2 weeks starting friday. After that the lockdown will be reassessed.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #14

Norway got more cases than denmark (622 vs 514), and our government is still asleep. The "wait and see" attitude makes shure they are always 3 steps behind.

Or, alternatively, everyone's freaking out over something that just isn't as big a deal as everyone's making it out to be.

This is what lethal ignorance looks like.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

It is a war and calculation should be done in a different way.

1. Healthcare system is the TOP priority and keeps its resource adequate is critical.

2. If workers need to take care of their children, try to seek more ways to staff the hospital: (1) recruiting volunteers for non-specialized roles (2) adjusting shifts (3) concentrate resources, even move resources geographically.

Basically this is what China has done to bend the curve and what Italy is currently doing. You have to think this as a whole.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #35
post #2

Also, all public sector employees who do not perform critical functions will be sent home on paid leave, and all private companies are recommended to do the same. On top of this all public gatherings of more than 100 people is discouraged, and it is alsp encouraged for all bars and nightclubs to keep closed for now. These are expected to be signed into law within the week.

Is there any reasoning/science behind 100 people? Why 100 but not 1000 or 50?

Not really. The PM was asked about that and she just said it was a pretty arbitrary number but something they deemed sound for now.

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

I disagree here. Denmark is acting proactively and shutting down schools for 2 weeks. This is a "rip the band aid off early" type of move. By shutting down everything for 2 weeks, they effectively self-quarantine during the entire incubation period and will dramatically slow the rate of the virus. China, on the other hand, did not do this, and they were forced to shut down schools for 6 months. These moves are HARD a…

for the two weeks as of day one of the changes. What if the virus shows up on day 15, the day after things return to normal? Will they stay shutdown for another two weeks?

Re: Denmarks shuts down all schools, daycare facilities, universities, highschools

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post #12

Something that I heard from an epidemiologist the other day is how shutting down schools and daycares can be incredibly counterproductive, because such a high percentage of health care workers have children which suddenly are at home and need to be supervised, pulling these workers out of their duties. I suppose its ok early on, but seems problematic if enough people eventually get infected. Understood that schools a…

A virologist mentioned that kids up until 19 basically don't get sick from this virus, something like 0.2%, and even if they do its not as hard on them as on adult in their 40ies or older. So indeed very counter productive

0.2% is the mortality rate up to 19, not the risk of getting sick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019#Morta...). The disease can be serious even if it's not fatal, and children can easily spread the virus to their families. It's even possible for someone to become infected and spread the virus without showing any symptoms at all.
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