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Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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To people who use DuckDuckGo: how do you deal with its inability to answer simple queries with factual answers? Things like “distance from Los Angeles to New York”, “Joe Biden age”, “knives out cast”, “capital of South Africa”, etc. The time it takes to click a result on DuckDuckGo and navigate to the answer is so much longer than just getting the answer at the top of the results page, as google (and even bing) provi…

For facts like these, I use WolframAlpha. For everything else, it's DDG.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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Agreed. I tried it a few times over the years and found the results to be pretty poor, but I tried again recently and found the results to be good enough to fully switch both my computer and phone to DDG. Although I'm fully switched over, there are 2 drawbacks: * Since DDG tracks you less, the results for local searches may be worse. If you're in Boston, TX you'll probably want to search for "boston, tx restaurants"…

> Google could handle "boston restaurants" if your location is in Boston, TX.

Location is the single biggest implicit factor for Google search results; "restaurants" would probably get you what you are looking for (well, ignoring that it's an overly broad query, and most places have too many restaurants for a simple ranking of them to really be that helpful).

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I strongly disagree, especially when you have all the Wikipedia / contact / google map embedded into Google search, with one click it can call phone number from a restaurant. Edit: To add more, it's all those details that makes Google better than other, search engine are not just for searching things it's all about the display and relevance.

DDG does that too. Most restaurants I search for have a box on the side with phone number and info pulled from Yelp, and a map in whatever provider you want to use.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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DDG is great for anything that has many results. Obscure errors? They decide to ignore half your query and show you pages of completely unrelated results. Even when there is no result, I wouldn’t know with DDG. For normal searches I never need !g, for obscure problems I always do because DDG (or maybe Bing? I don’t know how the integration exactly works) for some arcane reason deliberately breaks their own search.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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post #6

Agreed. I tried it a few times over the years and found the results to be pretty poor, but I tried again recently and found the results to be good enough to fully switch both my computer and phone to DDG. Although I'm fully switched over, there are 2 drawbacks: * Since DDG tracks you less, the results for local searches may be worse. If you're in Boston, TX you'll probably want to search for "boston, tx restaurants"…

I live in Rochester, MN, and that's how I can say with some certainty that google doesn't do a good job of using your location in their search algorithm. If you just search for something simple like "Rochester library hours", it'll default to Rochester NY. Everybody in my town has learned that we have to use "Rochester MN library hours". I get that the one in NY has ten times more residents than we do, but it's not like we're some backwater here!

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

#46

I think I've figured out what is happening when people tell me that DuckDuckGo's results "aren't good enough". What's really happening is that they've been trained to search a certain way to using Google and because DDG doesn't have all the historical data of your searches on their platform they can't fill in the gaps as well. After a couple days using DDG I found the right vocabulary to get good local results and wh…

A lot of DDG fans on HN blame the user or social conditioning and use that as a crutch. It’s BS.

You need to provide clear examples of the differences in order to really make this argument to someone who might switch.

What specifically are the differences? The last time this topic came up someone told me I was a total noob because I didn’t know how to use search and that was basically the extent of it.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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I think I've figured out what is happening when people tell me that DuckDuckGo's results "aren't good enough". What's really happening is that they've been trained to search a certain way to using Google and because DDG doesn't have all the historical data of your searches on their platform they can't fill in the gaps as well. After a couple days using DDG I found the right vocabulary to get good local results and wh…

Trained in what way? I type a couple words(misspelled) on Google and it magically returns me exactly what I need. Typing special keywords back in the day sucked.

Re: DuckDuckGo is good enough for regular use

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post #11

It's only good enough when you're in the US, I live in the UK and DDG consistently returns non local results even though the country is set correctly, it's especially annoying given how many US cities are named after their UK counterpart.

This is my only gripe with DDG. For daily use, it's fine, but it's awful for local results or anything that requires a map or directions.

I agree, I use it as my main search engine as I'm trying to go Google-free at home but finding UK-centric things is annoying. I guess we must just be a much smaller market for them.
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