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Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

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Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#41

What is going to happen when Reddit ipo’s and the employees benefit financially from it, but the moderators who actually make reddit what it is get nothing?

Steem has an interesting approach to solve this.

Steemit[1] is the reddit alternative built on Steem[2].

[1] https://steemit.com/ [2] https://steem.com/

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#42
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(deimorz is former Reddit staff and now operates a Reddit competitor)

I also probably did thousands of hours of unpaid moderation and development work on Reddit before I worked there. None of that's very relevant here though, other than showing that I'm intimately familiar with the dynamic from spending a lot of time on both sides of it.

> other than showing that I'm intimately familiar with the dynamic from spending a lot of time on both sides of it.

Thats a pretty good argument for it to be relevant.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#43
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the users who post content? Are they expected to get something too? Youtube and Twitch pay people who make content, in addition to paying moderators.

Twitch moderators get paid? That is news to me. Where do I sign up!

While the comment insinuated they were paid by Twitch (Amazon), the reality is some of the biggest channels _do_ pay their channel moderators (creator to mods). A big example of this is CohhCarnage[0].

[0] https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/8040/cohhcarnage-on-how...

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#44
post #30

In 2014, the CEO Yishan Wong and lead investor Sam Altman said they were promising equity to some users of Reddit https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/30/6874353/reddit-50-million... Any update on this?

> Money can become worthless very quickly.

Smart enough to foresee it, not smart enough to avoid it.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#45
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do moderators expect to get paid?

They get paid in the satisfaction of exerting control over others, enforcing their bias in a community, and generally feeling powerful. That's the kind of person who tends to self-select to delete posts and ban people all day for free. Moderation gets so bad on reddit (visible from subreddits like watchredditdie and nolockedthreads) that many communities would be better off self-policed solely by up/down votes, all t…

You can do that now? Create your own subreddit and pretty much enforce those rules, offer that sub as an alternative.

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#46

What is going to happen when Reddit ipo’s and the employees benefit financially from it, but the moderators who actually make reddit what it is get nothing?

They don’t get “nothing”, they get access to a platform and communities which they enjoy.

Not everybody’s metric is $

Re: Online altruists making Reddit more accessible

#47
post #34

What is going to happen when Reddit ipo’s and the employees benefit financially from it, but the moderators who actually make reddit what it is get nothing?

The internet has had paid and free communities and forums forever. I can’t think of a single one where voluntary non-employee moderators got paid. Tech support forums for ten billion dollar companies also sometimes have non-employee moderators who I’m pretty sure are not paid.

AOL used Community Leaders to moderate chats and forums. The CLs filed a complaint with the Department of Labor for violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) and eventually sued, winning a $15 million settlement.

It's a violation of the FLSA to use volunteers to do unpaid work at a for-profit company, even if the volunteers are OK with not getting paid. It's only going to take one mod to file a DoL complaint before Reddit scraps all the mods or centralizes the mod duties under actual employees.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AOL_Community_Leader_Program

https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/whd/flsa/docs/volunteers.asp

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