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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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> At this point, the hospital called the CDC requesting permission to perform the COVID-19 testing. The CDC denied the request on the ground that I did not have the most life-threatening symptoms

Two questions:

1. Why would the hospital require permission to run a test?

2. Why would the CDC not want to test suspicious cases before severe symptoms present? From what I've read, the virus is contageous whether severe symptoms are present or not.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can actually increase your odds of infection by different deceases by having a paper mask since they are often uncomfortable or fit poorly and people put their hands to the face to adjust them.

This seems like an invented rationalization given that the average person touches their face up to 3000 times a day already ( up to . It is trivial to find details of this range). If you adjust a mask a few times, but in return it stops you from touching your nose/mouth constantly, that's an enormous win. And just to clarify, again people are talking about surgical masks. N95 masks, which are still "cheap paper masks…

It is what I read by an associate in microbiology and infection control [1]. I tend to listen to experts but maybe he's wrong about the field he is studying, I'm not an expert :)

Translated from Norwegian:

- Does a facemask help against spreading virii?

- No, not when you are using it out among people. The point is that you will scratch your face and get your fingers in contact with your soft tissue. So it is counterproductive to use these regular paper masks, says associate in microbiology and infection control at the University of Southeast Norway, Jörn Klein.

[1] https://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/smittevernforsker-munnbind...

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears to be pretty much all western governments. at least 3 countries in the middle east appear to be pretty transparent, including surprisingly, Iran The level of censorship around unquestionably authentic videos coming out of China has left me in a deep state of shock

You must be joking about Iran, based on pure math, it’s clear they are lying about the number.

Or, more likely: they don't actually know the real numbers. So you can treat what you do get from them as lower bounds, that's the bits they are sure about so they report them but events have possibly overtaken the authorities there to the point that their reporting is completely botched.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

#45

> At this point, the hospital called the CDC requesting permission to perform the COVID-19 testing. The CDC denied the request on the ground that I did not have the most life-threatening symptoms Two questions: 1. Why would the hospital require permission to run a test? 2. Why would the CDC not want to test suspicious cases before severe symptoms present? From what I've read, the virus is contageous whether severe sy…

Because it's a CDC test in limited supply, and they're doing their best to try to balance the available supply with detecting as many cases as possible. The challenge is that the spread is changing rapidly enough that the guidelines will inevitably be a day or two behind periodically.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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post #3

This implies that our government is managing the propaganda around Covid-19 by simply not testing suspected cases. Is this true?

I’d at least entertain the possibility that this means the CDC has a limited number of test kits right now and can’t yet afford to give one to every single person who has a cough. It would be a bummer for some serious cases who wouldn’t get tested, if they had to test everyone who asked as long as they had kits available.

They were pretty clear yesterday that they’re ramping up test kit production and test sites as fast as possible. They didn’t answer a direction question about how many sites there were yesterday, implying to me that the number is pretty low.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/t0228-COVID-19-updat...

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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> At this point, the hospital called the CDC requesting permission to perform the COVID-19 testing. The CDC denied the request on the ground that I did not have the most life-threatening symptoms Two questions: 1. Why would the hospital require permission to run a test? 2. Why would the CDC not want to test suspicious cases before severe symptoms present? From what I've read, the virus is contageous whether severe sy…

The core problem is that the CDC (and country) has had the capacity to test only a few hundred samples per day. Meaning, they don’t have the ability to test everyone with flu-like symptoms.

Nobody thinks it’s right to NOT test every potential case. It just wasn’t possible.

Good news: Just today, they released new rules that should increase testing capacity by 400x.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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> At this point, the hospital called the CDC requesting permission to perform the COVID-19 testing. The CDC denied the request on the ground that I did not have the most life-threatening symptoms Two questions: 1. Why would the hospital require permission to run a test? 2. Why would the CDC not want to test suspicious cases before severe symptoms present? From what I've read, the virus is contageous whether severe sy…

Because all test samples are sent to the CDC headquarters in Atlanta for testing. They only have a certain number of people available to analyze the test results. And the number of test kits is limited so the CDC is trying to triage cases until the supply opens up.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It appears to be pretty much all western governments. at least 3 countries in the middle east appear to be pretty transparent, including surprisingly, Iran The level of censorship around unquestionably authentic videos coming out of China has left me in a deep state of shock

You must be joking about Iran, based on pure math, it’s clear they are lying about the number.

Maybe they're incompetent.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

#50
post #32

Hmm, this is bad. A ton of people from NYC / Brooklyn also commute back to the east end of Long Island for weekends so this has a potential to spread pretty quickly. I don't keep up with the news at all but recently I started reading some articles from major news outlets just for more info about this virus. It's mind boggling at how different each channel's reporting is (I'm in the US). I was at the store this mornin…

I just saw a virologist give out the flu argument in addition to presenting the naive mortality rate and making an intentional arithmetic mistake (100-3.5=97, perhaps 96.5 does not feel such a big number anymore).

I would recommend to study this site https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ if you want to be more informed.

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