Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually I'm going to put it into my closet along with the rest of "home equipment" (UPS, GPON modem, switch, landline phone). Noise will disturb me at night, as I'm sleeping not far enough from there. I managed to configure Gen 8 to be quiet enough with some weird tricks (it was not by default). Basically I need for fan noise to be on par with HDD noise.
Downclock/throttle/disable hyperthreads/etc in BIOS?
HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
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Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#42Get the Z series workstations from HP instead. They are much better options for home.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#43I don't like: * Pentium G5420 has 54W TDP. That's a lot. It'll be noisy under load. I'd prefer something like Celeron G4932E with 27W. I don't need performance, I need quiet operation and ECC support. * iLO enablement kit is $100 and need physical delivery. No more $5 ebay key. That's a shame for home consumer. Also I was not able to find a price. Hoping for the best. Buying Gen8 for $300 with cheap iLO key was a gre…
TDP is such a meaningless stat to criticize. People still caring about TDP is a huge pet peeve of mine. The TDP is a nearly entirely fictional number your modern CPU will never operate at. Especially in a home server, the CPU will be maxed out 0.001% of its life, if that. The only stat that matters is idle power, which it will be at for the majority of its life.
I'm happy to show you quite a few servers which run almost at their TDP for 7/24/365.
Yes, it's not very applicable to home scenarios but spike loads create a lot of noise at home when a CPU has high TDP.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#44Most interesting comparison for me will be the price. The Gen10 is so inexpensive that it's competing in the same price range as a four-bay Synology unit. But I imagine this won't be.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#45Get the Z series workstations from HP instead. They are much better options for home.
They all seem to be much more GPU-focused? i.e. completely different product segment?
And mostly (with a couple of exceptions) significantly larger than something named "MicroServer".
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#46Why do server hardware need to look cool? Do ppl buy hardware based on the looks!? So many metal cases with razer sharp corners to cut yourself on, making it weight a ton. And screws. And more compartments, like a Russian doll. Making it cost a ton. All you need is a wireframe made in wood or plastic, a bare board, and a fan.
> All you need is a wireframe made in wood or plastic Wood burns, plastic melts. When you have a bunch of racks full of a bunch of servers undrler heavy load, managing the environmental temperature of the datacenter is very important.
Not sure datacenter is particularly relevant for this product, but yes, a homemade wooden chassis would be a bit of a car crash waiting to happen.
(Although the lackrack probably deserves a mention! :) https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack )
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#47I don't like: * Pentium G5420 has 54W TDP. That's a lot. It'll be noisy under load. I'd prefer something like Celeron G4932E with 27W. I don't need performance, I need quiet operation and ECC support. * iLO enablement kit is $100 and need physical delivery. No more $5 ebay key. That's a shame for home consumer. Also I was not able to find a price. Hoping for the best. Buying Gen8 for $300 with cheap iLO key was a gre…
> Also I was not able to find a price. Hoping for the best. Buying Gen8 for $300 with cheap iLO key was a great purchase UK Pricing direct from HPE - expect sticker shock https://www.hpe.com/uk/en/product-catalog/servers/proliant-s... HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus E-2224 S100i 4LFF-NHP 180W External PS Server P16006-421 £ 839 * inc VAT HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus E-2224 S100i 4LFF-NHP 1TB 180W External…
Street pricing in the US from lower margin HPE resellers for the performance E-2224 diskless model (P16006) has been discounted to $578-$660 depending on reseller/ day.
Still a lot more than some of the previous versions.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#48Why do server hardware need to look cool? Do ppl buy hardware based on the looks!? So many metal cases with razer sharp corners to cut yourself on, making it weight a ton. And screws. And more compartments, like a Russian doll. Making it cost a ton. All you need is a wireframe made in wood or plastic, a bare board, and a fan.
> All you need is a wireframe made in wood or plastic Wood burns, plastic melts. When you have a bunch of racks full of a bunch of servers undrler heavy load, managing the environmental temperature of the datacenter is very important.
When you get melting/burning temperatures you are already screwed, and burning metal is far more dangerous, try turning some metal wool on fire.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also I was not able to find a price. Hoping for the best. Buying Gen8 for $300 with cheap iLO key was a great purchase UK Pricing direct from HPE - expect sticker shock https://www.hpe.com/uk/en/product-catalog/servers/proliant-s... HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus E-2224 S100i 4LFF-NHP 180W External PS Server P16006-421 £ 839 * inc VAT HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus E-2224 S100i 4LFF-NHP 1TB 180W External…
Street pricing in the US from lower margin HPE resellers for the performance E-2224 diskless model (P16006) has been discounted to $578-$660 depending on reseller/ day. Still a lot more than some of the previous versions.
the UK price includes VAT@20% so you are looking for around
£524 (629), £699 (839), and £770 (922) respectively, which doesn't look terribly far off the US pricing given the standard UK markup.
The normal UK server resellers and disties (including the one I bought my gen8 microserver from) don't seem to have them listed yet.
Re: HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Plus vs. Gen10 Hardware Overview
#50Get the Z series workstations from HP instead. They are much better options for home.
They all seem to be much more GPU-focused? i.e. completely different product segment? And mostly (with a couple of exceptions) significantly larger than something named "MicroServer".
They are perfect for data crunching as well as GPU related purposes.
For IO: My 8 year old one lets me saturate SATA at 500megabyte per second. With SAS which it also supports it's supposedly 3000megabyte per second, bit I have never tried it.
For memory: ECC
For processing: Dual Xeon CPU config
For storage: Nice storage pods.
For admin: Out of band ILO like functionality, although I've never tried it
For home: SILENCE! My machine measures at 32db