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It seems the Trump administration position is not really all that different than the previous administrations.
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Don't forget the fundraising efforts by Ellison for the same administration supporting them in this.
From the article: >> At an earlier stage in litigation, the Obama administration took a similar position, urging the Supreme Court not to accept Google's appeal. Did Ellison do a fundraiser for Obama as well?
I did not follow every step, but assuming Oracle win this, will it also apply to Amazon proposing DocumentDB with the same API that MongoDB ?
Seems like it would. Which, maybe isn’t a horrible thing, considering it would prevent a company like Amazon from just nuking a vendor like Mongo by cloning their tech and offering it in their PaaS. I would hope that we end up with something more like FRAND rules than conventional copyrights, though.
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Ellison hosted a big fundraiser for Trump literally yesterday and Obama regularly golfed with Ellison. I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist but it’s clear the guy is connected and it stands to reason it might influence the government position. https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/12/tru... https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/bar... Edit: some suggest Ellison doesn’t play golf, t…
> conspiracy theorist In my opinion, a possible connection between fundraisers/golfing and political outcomes doesn't necessarily rise to "conspiracy theorist".
Do elites ever give money to deregulate?
> At an earlier stage in litigation, the Obama administration took a similar position, urging the Supreme Court not to accept Google's appeal. It seems the Trump administration position is not really all that different than the previous administrations.
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Does it matter? Every time without fail when I argue on HN that government involvement in tech is usually negative I get downvoted to oblivion. But then when the same government interferes and is on the "wrong" side of popular geek opinion there is an uproar.
Wait, when people disagree with you on an issue then they downvote you. However, when you are talking about the same government, when they agree with you, will upvote you? This, right here, is a broken system. People should only be able to upvote or downvote another person, but not both, whenever they are talking about the same government!
The same branch of the same country, but with changes in who occupies it they can be vastly different.
I greatly dislike the "both sides are the same" narrative, but there were some strong elements of consistency regardless of occupant.
The current administration is an entirely new beast that reflects the whims of a single individual. We are in uncharted waters now.
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From the article: >> At an earlier stage in litigation, the Obama administration took a similar position, urging the Supreme Court not to accept Google's appeal. Did Ellison do a fundraiser for Obama as well?
He did not. Ellison has been a reliable (though not particularly partisan) republican for years.
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> conspiracy theorist In my opinion, a possible connection between fundraisers/golfing and political outcomes doesn't necessarily rise to "conspiracy theorist".
This is how United States politics work. The elite give money to regulate an industry. Do elites ever give money to deregulate?
"conspiracy theorist" has, to a large extent, become a phrase used to describe a certain class of fairly nutty folks these days, rightly or wrongly. I was noting that it's possible that someone pointing out a possible political outcome based on money transfer/golf games can do so without being a member of that group, as its effectively defined today.
Question: if this lawsuit goes in Oracle's favor, what does that mean for WINE? Isn't that the same issue? WINE provides compatible Windows APIs. Also SMB? Although I think that's done at the protocol layer and not the C API layer (?)