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Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

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Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#41

People using tiling window managers like i3 or sway should get friendly with this feature. It allows me to "full window" (note: not screen) netflix/amazon/YouTube videos in a tile which was impossible to do without PIP.

Either awesome or i3 used to allow me to fullscreen a video, then pop that fullscreen video out into it's own floating window, that I could then stick on top of all other windows, and make it stay on every workspace. Really cool way to get a hacky picture in picture mode way before firefox did this.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#42

> Given that it would be available on any video content, the feature needed to be discoverable and straight-forward for as many people as possible. This is the designer’s nightmare: Every feature needs to be available to everyone, therefore be visible on the screen. Yet they only cite rare usecases: « Watching sports event while continuing to browse the web ». In the meantime, the blue tone isn’t generally consistent…

I feel like this is the type of feature that should be a browser extension. It could be an officially supported one from Mozilla.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#43

For the life of me I can't see why anyone would need picture in picture for browsers. More features most people don't need. Please come down to earth Mozilla. You have lost your way. Please revisit NCSA Mosaic and witness your roots.

I do love that feature.

I wish it was a little bit easier to maximize on other monitors

instead of having to try to resize it perfectly

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#44
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A comment on reddit said they use it all the time when following coding tutorials. Seems like a handy use case.

That brings up a second question: who watches coding tutorials? I'd imagine it's probably people with less than a few weeks of coding experience, because it's horribly inefficient compared to text tutorials.

Which approach has better efficiency is dependent on person.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#45

For the life of me I can't see why anyone would need picture in picture for browsers. More features most people don't need. Please come down to earth Mozilla. You have lost your way. Please revisit NCSA Mosaic and witness your roots.

PiP has greatly improved my Zwift+Netflix experience. Zwift is a "fitness game" that is best enjoyed with a TV stream alongside (sorry Zwift, you're not that engaging), that like most games doesn't really support arbitrary aspect ratio and that is best enjoyed on the big TV screen. It can easily tolerated some of its UI getting obscured but you do want to keep it focused for possible key events. Before PiP arranging those windows was a permanent struggle with focus and tricks to hide as much of the browser UI as possible (not much). It's still not perfect because PiP is reset between episodes, but I don't expect this to remain a problem forever.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#46
At first I didn't even realize this was FF feature (I suspected something like gstreamer, but was lazy to investigate). Now that I know it is indeed FF, I just cannot wrap my head around it...

1) I can pause the video, but cannot navigate it. I guess the navigation would be there if it was technically possible, but from practical standpoint this makes it useless even if it appealed to me in other ways. Popping a video into PiP mode and then go diving for the original tab to seek 10 seconds back to rewatch an interesting moment seems utterly bizarre.

2) I've grown to truly hate this kind-of-PiP thing many websites (news outlets mostly) do: Autoplay a video and then shove it to lower right corner when I try to scroll away. Along with timed "subscribe to newsletter" popup, this is an insta-close for me; Now why would I want to replicate this behavior elsewhere?

3) I'm literally unable to read through even the first words of that blogpost because of that gif. Now, thanks to this PiP feature, I can make any text unreadable by placing a distracting video on my screen.

While I'd welcome features that fight distraction (and not support attention fragmentation), there obviously is (significant part of?) FF userbase that will make use of this feature. Good for them.

Luckily for us grumpy farts, that blue PiP button can be turned off in preferences, we can mutter something about bloat, but generally go on with our lives.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

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post #46

At first I didn't even realize this was FF feature (I suspected something like gstreamer, but was lazy to investigate). Now that I know it is indeed FF, I just cannot wrap my head around it... 1) I can pause the video, but cannot navigate it. I guess the navigation would be there if it was technically possible, but from practical standpoint this makes it useless even if it appealed to me in other ways. Popping a vide…

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Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#49

> Given that it would be available on any video content, the feature needed to be discoverable and straight-forward for as many people as possible. This is the designer’s nightmare: Every feature needs to be available to everyone, therefore be visible on the screen. Yet they only cite rare usecases: « Watching sports event while continuing to browse the web ». In the meantime, the blue tone isn’t generally consistent…

I feel like this is the type of feature that should be a browser extension. It could be an officially supported one from Mozilla.

Safari implements this natively and it’s super handy.

I imagine if you intently watch videos it’s not useful, but for multitasking it’s great. Or note taking etc.

Re: Building Firefox's Picture-in-Picture Support

#50
post #13

Picture in Picture is great for lectures or follow-along tutorials and I'm glad people are taking it more seriously (initially was using Youtube on Safari purely because of this feature, but later on Chrome had it... albeit a bit wonky, I started using it on Chrome normally).

I would love to have an external controller for start/stop/fast forward/rewind when watching tutorials on Youtube. For example a controller [1] people are using to edit videos. Quite often I would like to pause the video for a while, repeat last 30 sec or by-pass some boring segment. [1] https://www.amazon.com/Contour-Design-Shuttle-Xpress-Multime...

You might be aware but youtube at least have j,k,l as shortcut keys for reversing 10s, paus/play, and forwarding 10s.

Doesn't work within the PIP window though.

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