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iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by nobleach »

rconti wrote: post #4

Don't forget the mundane detail of "I have no idea what Apple did with my 60GB music library or how to get it on my phone again". Thankfully I've been a spotify subscriber for years so I can just keep kicking that can down the road, but some day I'd like my music back.

I had one of those really nice 100GB music libraries that I had been ripping from CDs since 1998. (and Napster/WinMX/Kazaa/Limewire-ing because... I was young, stupid and poor) I had meticulously been fixing ID3 tags, and putting them into the folder structure that made me happy. Then one day, I did a new Mac setup, and forgot to tick the box that said, "let me manage my library layout" and BAM. iTunes moved everything around. 10 years of collating, and sorting, etc, GONE. It's my fault for not backing it up... but wow. I basically just stopped listening to that library. I now do Spotify.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by DavideNL »

I have both Apple Music and Spotify, and i also dislike Apple's Music app;

First, it deleted ALL my playlists on a random day for no apparent reason, and i couldn't restore them from backups because apparently the playlists are stored in the cloud or whatever and not in a local file.

Also, after converting my personal library to "iCloud", Apple replaced all my specific versions of songs with crappy alternative versions, without notifying me beforehand. Very frustrating.

Spotify's user interface is so much better, i can't understand how anyone would prefer Apple Music. Also i much prefer Spotify's radio/recommendations.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by samstevens »

barrowclift wrote: post #34

While I agree iOS 13’s Music.app is pretty shoddy in many respects, there’s plenty of alternatives other than Spotify that might better fit their requirements. (Marvis Pro, Soor, etc.) I consolidate the biggest players yearly in a review, which might be helpful for the author’s search: https://barrowclift.me/post/second-annual-ios-music-player-c...

This looks incredible! I've bookmarked this to check out later, but as an immediate question: do any of these support Apple Music/Spotify as a backend for downloading music? I'd prefer to stick with a monthly subscription for access to all music if at all possible.

Edit: also, you have an incredibly pretty website.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by dingo_bat »

rconti wrote: post #4

Don't forget the mundane detail of "I have no idea what Apple did with my 60GB music library or how to get it on my phone again". Thankfully I've been a spotify subscriber for years so I can just keep kicking that can down the road, but some day I'd like my music back.

Since most flagships now start at 256GB of internal storage, why can't you just copy all of your existing library to your phone and listen to it?

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by meerita »

rconti wrote: post #4

Don't forget the mundane detail of "I have no idea what Apple did with my 60GB music library or how to get it on my phone again". Thankfully I've been a spotify subscriber for years so I can just keep kicking that can down the road, but some day I'd like my music back.

My problem with Spotify: some bands aren't there.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by rbinv »

balls187 wrote: post #17
m0xte wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify kept removing what I listen to so it got canned pretty quick.

That is really annoying, but I bet it's not spotify per-se, but the music's copyright owners wishes.

It's a good thing those wishes can't delete MP3s.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by derefr »

I feel like Music.app is a pair of similar apps squished together, when they share no common frontend functionality and work far better apart:

• Apple Music (the subscription service)

• iTunes (the library with syncing and an optional digital music locker subscription-service)

Each of the two has its own obvious top-level navigation. Each of the two has its own independent backend services (e.g. the recommendations in Apple Music; the iTunes Store and the cloud music locker in the iTunes app.) They would also share some backend services (e.g. the object storage of songs that are streamed in Apple Music vs. “matched“ in iTunes) but other iOS apps share these services too (e.g. Apple Podcasts, Apple TV.)

Why are they the same app?

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by _jal »

nobleach wrote: post #41
rconti wrote: post #4

Don't forget the mundane detail of "I have no idea what Apple did with my 60GB music library or how to get it on my phone again". Thankfully I've been a spotify subscriber for years so I can just keep kicking that can down the road, but some day I'd like my music back.

I had one of those really nice 100GB music libraries that I had been ripping from CDs since 1998. (and Napster/WinMX/Kazaa/Limewire-ing because... I was young, stupid and poor) I had meticulously been fixing ID3 tags, and putting them into the folder structure that made me happy. Then one day, I did a new Mac setup, and forgot to tick the box that said, "let me manage my library layout" and BAM. iTunes moved everythi…

> I now do Spotify.

I have this dark suspicion that that this is a perfectly acceptable outcome to music steaming concerns.

I'm not saying that Apple or anyone else is intentionally trashing libraries to encourage streaming. Just that they have no good reason to care about your carefully curated library, and in fact have something to gain if it went away.

Re: iOS 13's Music App Sucks

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Post by npo9 »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #28
npo9 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I rip my own CDs and import them into Spotify or am I limited to the music provided by the Spotify streaming service? I think this is what is meant by a “music library”

Yes, this feature has been available for a while. You must have a Premium subscription to do it on mobile, though. https://support.spotify.com/us/using_spotify/features/listen...

Cool! This feature was not available when I last used Spotify, which was admittedly years ago.
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