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Amazon LightSail gives you 1 CPU, 1GB RAM, 40GB SSD and 2TB transfer for the same price.

Amazon Lightsail launched way after Linode and DO have been established in the low-cost segment, and it was slightly more expensive than Linode and DO when it launched. It appears they've lowered their prices again in order to capture the market but mind share is still low.

Last time I tested it Amazon Lightsail was also way slower.

Re: Linode launches free DDoS protection

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You start using GCP/AWS/Azure, you're going to start using managed databases, security groups, etc. These are really nice. They can save you a lot of time as a startup. ... They are incredibly difficult to migrate. If you use terraform, it does support GCP/AWS/Azure/DO/Vultr, but you'll have to rewrite everything for each provider. For really simple providers (just a VM; in AWS, just EC2) you can still write all your…

After your seed round this simply doesn’t hold up. If you’re making money the upside of the modern cloud is absurd, and cloud-to-cloud portability is a design pattern choice. There is zero lock-in with appropriate architecture decisions.

> There is zero lock-in with appropriate architecture decisions.

Sigh, you don't know what you're talking about.

Everything past "make VM" is lockin. Firewall rules, be they security groups, NACLs, or what have you are different for each platform. Each service you use is lockin. Even the build scripts themselves are lockin. The users within the console, and all their associated permissions are lockin.

Do you want load balancers? AWS - so.. thats ALBs, or NLBs, or CLBs? Or did you want to spin up a bunch of dinky ec2 haproxy dockers? Does your application use sticky sessions or have session data? That limits you in a bit of ways.

There is no neutral way to talk about network, compute, storage, and api assets that don't involve lockin of a great deal.

Re: Linode launches free DDoS protection

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Nice. Apart from the security incident that took place long time ago, are there any reason why everyone is going straight to DO instead of Linode?

For a long time Linode has had better features, performance and bandwidth. It wasn't until recently DO had Managed DB and many other additions.

Linode's High Memory Plan also has much better Memory : CPU Ratio.

Still waiting for their CDN, ( Not sure why they are not exposing it and instead requires going through CS ), Managed DB and Bare Metal. Once those three are in place, ( and well tested ) It should provide decent competition to the HyperScalers.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon Lightsail launched way after Linode and DO have been established in the low-cost segment, and it was slightly more expensive than Linode and DO when it launched. It appears they've lowered their prices again in order to capture the market but mind share is still low.

> mind share is still low. I can tell that - many people in this thread are using “AWS” as though it’s synonymous with “EC2”.

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Re: Linode launches free DDoS protection

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I guess this is basically the same as OVH's "VAC" system? I sometimes get these emails: >We have just detected an attack on IP address x.x.x.x. In order to protect your infrastructure, we vacuumed up your traffic onto our mitigation infrastructure. The entire attack will thus be filtered by our infrastructure, and only legitimate traffic will reach your servers. and then: >We are no longer able to detect any attack o…

I’m curious, does anyone know what that means specifically? How can they differentiate normal traffic from malicious traffic? What exactly triggers it? Is a ping flood with a slow (50mbits) internet connect enough? I am aware that the details are mostly likely private to protect them from abuse and are also a trade secret but I have a very hard time to find a general approach that might be similar to their solution?

Re: Linode launches free DDoS protection

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Nice. Apart from the security incident that took place long time ago, are there any reason why everyone is going straight to DO instead of Linode? For a long time Linode has had better features, performance and bandwidth. It wasn't until recently DO had Managed DB and many other additions. Linode's High Memory Plan also has much better Memory : CPU Ratio. Still waiting for their CDN, ( Not sure why they are not expos…

Who is "everyone"? Linode has been my primary choice over DO for some years.

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Fascinating! I learned about fail2ban this week as well as how to search for bad SSH actors -- I was amazed at the traffic requests my Linode was getting decked with. Having this as a default seems good.

Fail2ban (and IP blocking in general) breaks down a bit on IPv6 when the attacker has a /48 or /64. Are you going to block a single IP address or the whole netblock? What size block is safe to not cause collateral damage for e.g. mobile users?

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Serious question: why would I want to use Linode over GCP or AWS? Asking as someone who hasn’t really dabbled with smaller cloud providers. Is it cost? Support? Developer tooling?

Cost and ease of development by not throwing thousand of options in front of your screen. Last time, I checked GCP costed me $26 (+ hidden charges) for the same I could get on many other places for $7. Some of them provide instant customer support too and are better because it's not an outsourced customer center in India or other places. Check out: vultr: https://www.vultr.com Scaleway: https://www.scaleway.com/en/ O…

Thanks a lot for the long list. I am in the midst of considering switch of hosting provider, so it is nice to know some of the options.

Re: Linode launches free DDoS protection

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Serious question: why would I want to use Linode over GCP or AWS? Asking as someone who hasn’t really dabbled with smaller cloud providers. Is it cost? Support? Developer tooling?

Simplicity in cost and more user friendly features.

Very predictable how much you'd pay by spinning one up as bandwidth is a pooled limit among all your machines, so you won't pay until you exhaust the pooled monthly limit, and they don't charge you for disk IO and performance/cost ratio has been better.

You'd question why you'd pay more for less performance.

Will ec2 ever be able to boot into recover mode easily? Linode allows you to boot into recovery mode by attaching your disk and also easily access your console from browser in case you screw up networking or firewall to lock yourself out.

They provide easy daily/weekly backup instead of making you write script to take ebs snapshot manually.

Maybe my AWS knowledge isn't caught up but AWS feels like everything is for you to manage.

Also they don't do weird stuff like GCP resetting the hostname on every reboot but things are how you'd expect.

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