As a slight counterpoint (I haven't looked into the claims of the patents too much): There is the well known Kerr-Newman solution of a rotating, charged black hole. It is well known that a relativistic rotating charged disk approximates in the limit of (v = c) the Kerr-Newman solution with (B = 0): https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0410109.pdf. However the total field energy of such a rotating disk would be infinite, this is one of these examples in physics, where you run into pathologies. As is remarked in the paper those might be removed by a quantum treatment. For v < c the field energy is finite, which is in any case the only realisable regime.
The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
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Re: The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
#42Maybe just NSA and NAVY covert, keeping Chinese scientist busy wasting their time with nonsense science ?!
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't get it. The point of patents is public disclosure -- if you want to keep something secret, you don't patent it. A patent isn't going to prevent a foreign government from copying a technology in their own country. It instead helps them, because a patent is supposed to document the technology in sufficient detail to replicate it. It would just prevent them from competing to sell them in the US.
>> A patent isn't going to prevent a foreign government from copying a technology in their own country Absolutely agree. But that's probably a moot point if the secret in question has already gotten out and you're/we're aware of it ("gotten out", at least from an intelligence standpoint). If that's the case, maybe they're just trying to protect the rights to said technology within the U.S. -- if they know the secret…
> It’s also worth noting the well-established trend of the U.S. military making use of the Invention Secrecy Act of 1951 to file patents unavailable for public viewing
I could be that real patents are filed under the Invention Secrecy Act, and misdirection patents are made public.
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#44The problem I have in this, is that history is littered with things which without hindsight were crazy-batshit-ideas, and in a world of IPR and patents, definitely do get flagged as wierd. But.. then turn out to be useful. Liquid metal refrigerators using electromagnetics to send the fluid around instead of just pumping ammonia? Thats .. crazy. But also, What Szilard and Einstein patented: safer by far, no moving par…
In all of those cases the inventions sounded crazy And no one had really tried it before. A lot of smart people have been working on plasma physics with the goal of controlled fusion for 70 years. HTS research has been ongoing for nearly as long. Suddenly one guy who speaks like a crackpot has discovered things no one else has thought of? Occam’s Razor.
The "quintessence" bit was a bit of a red flag wasn't it
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems that these devices are real: > Despite the patents sounding extremely far-fetched, official documents show that the Chief Technology Officer of the U.S. Naval Aviation Enterprise personally attested to the reality of these inventions and their importance to national security and peer-state competition in appeals with the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). Of course, the article immediately fo…
I don't get it. The point of patents is public disclosure -- if you want to keep something secret, you don't patent it. A patent isn't going to prevent a foreign government from copying a technology in their own country. It instead helps them, because a patent is supposed to document the technology in sufficient detail to replicate it. It would just prevent them from competing to sell them in the US.
Misinformation
Re: The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
#46I'd really love some world changing breakthrough technology now. I really would. But I don't really understand this stuff (not that I'm qualified). I guess you can actually patent a perpetual motion machine, so the fact that it is a patent, doesn't seem to require that it be real. I can't help but think back to the 80's SDI "Star Wars" programs. We said that we could do a lot of things that we couldn't, and that made…
SDI freaked out the Russians because it was possible, if not feasible. A number of research projects (e.g. Brilliant Pebbles, Project Excalibur, Shiva Star) were spec'd and tested to various degrees. It would have cost many trillions, but we could have built a missile shield. SDI lives on as the Missile Defense Agency, which has had some modest successes (though nothing like taking down ICBMs during midcourse.)
Russia realized they couldn't afford to clone SDI, so they came up with an asymmetric tactic - MIRVs. A cat-and-mouse game on paper followed - the Soviets planned dummy warheads in MIRV payloads to confuse SDI, the Americans devised sensors to measure warhead density, etc.
AFAIK, Reagan really wanted SDI to work - if he'd been willing to compromise on it, we could have had denuclearization at the Rejkyavik summit. The myth that SDI was a misinformation campaign seems unsubstantiated by what I've read.
Re: The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
#47The problem I have in this, is that history is littered with things which without hindsight were crazy-batshit-ideas, and in a world of IPR and patents, definitely do get flagged as wierd. But.. then turn out to be useful. Liquid metal refrigerators using electromagnetics to send the fluid around instead of just pumping ammonia? Thats .. crazy. But also, What Szilard and Einstein patented: safer by far, no moving par…
You're massively overestimating the number of inventions that were sudden crazy-sounding discoveries. Almost none are like that.
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Re: The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
#48Wait a second. I thought you couldn't patent an idea that couldn't be demonstrated. For example, you can't patent the concept of faster than light travel in the hopes that one day, if someone does figure HOW to do it, you hold the patent. It's just absurd and that's what this all sounds like.
Re: The Inventor of the Navy's 'UFO Patents'
#49Maybe just NSA and NAVY covert, keeping Chinese scientist busy wasting their time with nonsense science ?!
Some in the US seem to be keeping their mentally ill off the streets by paying them to make nonsense secret parents.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
In all of those cases the inventions sounded crazy And no one had really tried it before. A lot of smart people have been working on plasma physics with the goal of controlled fusion for 70 years. HTS research has been ongoing for nearly as long. Suddenly one guy who speaks like a crackpot has discovered things no one else has thought of? Occam’s Razor.
The "quintessence" bit was a bit of a red flag wasn't it