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Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by Muuuchem »

georgeecollins wrote: post #30

I agree with most of this, except that I think comparing video game services to video streaming services is misleading. As the author points out, video game content can have a much longer lifespan than linear content, so people skip around a lot less. If you like crime TV shows you can watch all the episodes of a crime TV show and then try another show and another show and there is an ongoing demand for similar conte…

Before I had a good job I was playing one game, but lately I have enjoyed playing new games on my switch and emulating games I never played on my android. People like new games. I have shifted away from the service based games.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by georgeecollins »

sethammons wrote: post #10

While I think games are an underused medium for advertising and promoting, I'm not sure about any claim of it "taking over." Mobile games on the rise and all that, blah blah. From my own experience, as my purchasing power has grown, my gaming time has declined. I did play a lot of Breath of the Wild. However, I have another couple of games I'd like to play, but I just don't have the time.

Most people play less games as their income goes up, but they also watch less TV. They have less time. TV was mostly watched by kids and is watched by the elderly (Fox News / CBS). When you are old you may find yourself watching less Fox News and playing more Nintendo?

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by setr »

Hamuko wrote: post #37
wayoutthere wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are technical problems that will get solved. Heck, I helped solve some of them 5 years ago with Microsoft in a limited pilot but the solution wasn't cost-effective back then. They didn't want to be first to market with a half-baked product for fear it would damage the Xbox brand. Google is starting a new brand for Stadia, so it makes sense they'd be willing to take more risk.

> Those are technical problems that will get solved. How do you fix the distance between me and Google?

More datacenters

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by zentiggr »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #19
FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

Honestly what games have 20 minute updates so often? I havent played a game like that in a while. I can only think of MMOs doing this. I agree as well though, keyboard and mouse is the superrior interface for me.

I've started a process of starting our XBox One about every month, or even three weeks, so that any console updates are done before my wife (main player by about a 90/10 split) has to wait 45 minutes for download/validate/apply cycle.

If she has a game in, I start it as well, same reason.

I like the idea that they are both getting security and/or bug fixes (I'm looking at you, Bethesda) but yeah damn, it's a pain to wait an hour to start playing anymore.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by dudus »

Hamuko wrote: post #37
wayoutthere wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are technical problems that will get solved. Heck, I helped solve some of them 5 years ago with Microsoft in a limited pilot but the solution wasn't cost-effective back then. They didn't want to be first to market with a half-baked product for fear it would damage the Xbox brand. Google is starting a new brand for Stadia, so it makes sense they'd be willing to take more risk.

> Those are technical problems that will get solved. How do you fix the distance between me and Google?

More PoPs and fiber. Both which are already much more ubiquitous than a few years ago and fast expanding. Plus you don't need to reach everyone for a successful product. Just a critical mass

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by Darkphibre »

geerlingguy wrote: post #25
giancarlostoro wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly what games have 20 minute updates so often? I havent played a game like that in a while. I can only think of MMOs doing this. I agree as well though, keyboard and mouse is the superrior interface for me.

I was surprised/annoyed by this as a very casual gamer—my sister lent me her Xbox One a few weeks ago, and I have a copy of Halo (Master Chief Collection). I wanted to play it for a few minutes just to relive some memories from Halo CE and see how the remastered graphics looked. It took like 20 minutes for the game to copy from the disc to internal storage (luckily her Xbox had some free space!), and then it spent an…

Ah, yes, in the days of yore when the code could fit in an 8k memory chip! :D https://benfry.com/distellamap/

Sorry to hear it was not an enjoyable evening.

With the higher resolutions many TVs support, there's only so much bandwidth and memory headroom to support textures that big, and DVD drives just don't have the seek speed to support. Heck, in the 360 generation we were carefully laying out files broken apart and spaced so the platter would be under the read head at just the right time to reduce that latency.

As for the updates... well, I'm intimately familiar with why patching the four concurrent titles is they way it is. I have hear our feedback was incorporated into a new update system. It's been personally frustrating, when Microsoft/Bungie pioneered the Play-While-Install concept all the way back in Halo 2 Vista. We'll see!

The feedback in this post is my own, and is not meant to reflect that of my employer 343 Industries.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by wruza »

>And no one chooses not to game because there’s a branching narrative available instead.

This hypothesis is late a little. When a new game comes out that is not of a particularly comfortable genre, many gamers just watch letsplays (letsREplays in case of RTS with top players) and have the same fun. Many gamers are not okay with like Sekiro, DS, other timing/apm-heavy games, but the games themselves are good to watch and players/commenters are as great. It is also consumable without a PC.

What no one really chooses to watch is an idiotic tv-style narrative with repetitions, catch-factoids, watchtotheend baits and other annoying stamps. TV is not dead, it’s its hosts and managers are dinosaurs who stuck in the last century with their auditory and attention retaining methods. I (and I bet many others) would watch broadcast TV at fixed times daily, if it had at least one channel that doesn’t suck. Because it is usually of much better picture quality than youtube’s streaming compression rules.

Just fire all your content editors and selfish hosts, contract best of 300-500 yt channels for pixel-accurate fullhd+ content and all our evenings are yours again.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by setr »

Muuuchem wrote: post #41
georgeecollins wrote: post #30

I agree with most of this, except that I think comparing video game services to video streaming services is misleading. As the author points out, video game content can have a much longer lifespan than linear content, so people skip around a lot less. If you like crime TV shows you can watch all the episodes of a crime TV show and then try another show and another show and there is an ongoing demand for similar conte…

Before I had a good job I was playing one game, but lately I have enjoyed playing new games on my switch and emulating games I never played on my android. People like new games. I have shifted away from the service based games.

I have the same history, but different reasoning -- now that price isn't that much of an issue, I lose interest much faster. Most games require much more time than they have content. Games feel more vapid. Or maybe I've gotten better at recognizing it. But I just play until I get the gist of it, and move on; sometimes the trailer alone is sufficient to have extracted 90÷ of the interesting material.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by allovernow »

Pfhreak wrote: post #6
FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

> FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount of technology is going to change that because the main barrier is you won't want to play that game on your morning commute with a bunch of people around you, noise, and being unable to immerse yourself (even for reasons as simple as needing to remember to get off at your stop). PUBG and Fortnite are both…

As an aside, I played pubg from early days, and as buggy as the PC version was, I was shocked when out of curiosity I tried pubg on a pixel 2 and it actually ran smoothly.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by Pfhreak »

tomtheelder wrote: post #26
FooHentai wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I've seen a fair number of peeps playing minecraft on ipad too, so you have a point. They are separate, partitioned instances of the games though, tailored for the format.

I think this is at least partly a generational thing. Kids and teenagers seem to be much more willing than my peers to play demanding games on mobile, and to play them in public. It sort of makes sense, since anyone my age or older didn't _really_ have access to serious mobile games growing up.

Hey! My gameboy was a screen with 2 bits of color depth! What's not serious about that? :D
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