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Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by watwut »

belorn wrote: post #26
klaudius wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-young-...

I dislike this kind of cheap generalization which only look skin deep and don't even try to find common behavior between genders. Young men spend about an 2 hours on games per day, and the numbers for young women is much lower. Young women however spend about 2 hours more on their phones per day more than men. Something seems very similar here if we look at the two activities together rather then in isolation. I woul…

> I would guess the answer has something to do with inter-gender competition and status

And simply socialization. Gaming is socialization for many male gamers - it is their primary or only social circle and friends. It is the main thing they talk about even in person (what tv used to be).

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by russdill »

deeg wrote: post #3

I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

Keep in mind, the US population is 51% female. So there is still a higher percentage of employed males vs employed females.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by swalsh »

nkkollaw wrote: post #23
jacquesm wrote: post #16

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

The article is stating the exact opposite. In the past, this was true... but it seems like women are now starting to start participate in jobs Men have traditionally dominated.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by earlINmeyerkeg »

klaudius wrote: post #7
deeg wrote: post #3

I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-young-...

You know, it'd be nice if they'd look at the cultural aspects of gaming as opposed to just assuming all videogames are bad. It's like being in the 1920's criticizing someone spending time reading as opposed to working in a mill.

But what can you expect from a clearly biased news source that, while possibly not wrong, is likely not going to give any benefit of the doubt to people who live life differently from the "good 'ol christian boy" fashion.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by nkkollaw »

augbog wrote: post #37
nkkollaw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

I would assume if someone did gap analysis they would factor that in. It isn't about the wholistic are women making more or less than men. Rather it's the equality of are women who are the same role of men making the same. There shouldn't be a difference there.

Maybe.

Aren't there laws that prevent discrimination on gender and race pretty much in every first-world country? That would make it illegal to pay a woman less for the same job.

If you consider jobs where the title is the same but the professional works B2B, maybe women are less likely to ask for a better pay? That's why pink razors cost more, after all.

Female soccer players make less money because less people watch and there is less money, same thing for BBC journalists who demanded the same pay even though they got 10% share compared to their male colleague.

There are so many variables...

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by dfxm12 »

klaudius wrote: post #7
deeg wrote: post #3

I find this fairly astounding. The typical stay-at-home parent is the mother and while it's getting closer to parity I don't think it's anywhere near even. For that reason alone I would expect more men in the work force. What are men doing if not working? On disability? Homeless? Retiring earlier?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/when-young-...

No one knows exactly why this is happening, though declining demand for low-skill work seems to be a factor.

What happens as this continues to decline?

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by kypro »

nkkollaw wrote: post #23
jacquesm wrote: post #16

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

> I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

Some people don't believe that men and women are (on average) slightly different so to them any gender inequality is evidence of fowl play.

They don't see it as forcing women to do things they don't want, but righting a social wrong.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by nkkollaw »

swalsh wrote: post #43
nkkollaw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

The article is stating the exact opposite. In the past, this was true... but it seems like women are now starting to start participate in jobs Men have traditionally dominated.

Not really. The article is not stating the opposite.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by nkkollaw »

kypro wrote: post #47
nkkollaw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Women tend to choose jobs that pay less. They're on average more interested in people, so they tend to choose to become nurses, teachers, etc., while men are interested in things and become software developers, engineers, etc. I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why.

> I have no idea why income HAS TO be distributed equally. Unless you want to force women to become software developers..? But why. Some people don't believe that men and women are (on average) slightly different so to them any gender inequality is evidence of fowl play. They don't see it as forcing women to do things they don't want, but righting a social wrong.

I know, I just find it completely nuts.

Re: Women now make up the majority of the U.S. labor force

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Post by rjkennedy98 »

jacquesm wrote: post #16

The more interesting thing is the distribution of income. I would happily bet that there still is a considerable gap between women on average and men on average and that the total amount taken home by that majority is significantly less than the total amount for the men.

What about marriage? If a man makes more money and he is married is HE talking more? Isn't that income split (or in reality spent by the women)? I have never understood why data on married men is treated as if the men are single and it's their money alone.
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