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Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#41
post #35

"Catastrophic Failure" sounds a bit dramatic.

Are you sure? A catastrophe is often defined as “A complete failure” and the car certainly meets that criteria.

More like irreversible, total destruction.

It may have been catastrophic for his afternoon plans, but the car has clearly be repaired.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#42

On the flip side, how cool is it that cars are now smart enough to diagnose themselves and prevent you from driving before what could potentially be an unsafe situation has a chance to occur?

Depends what the false positive rate is, and it's no excuse for proper engineering and quality control.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#43
post #8

>...the pyrotechnic battery disconnect... What the?! Sounds sorta awesome.

I don't know about the Model 3, but at least in the Model S Performance, the main breakers are some short cables with a pyrotechnic charge. When the maximum current is exceeded, the explosives blow up the cables... After all, they are only triggering in excess of 1500 amps. Seems to be difficult to build traditional breakers good for up to 1500 amps which react fast enough.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#45

"Catastrophic Failure" sounds a bit dramatic.

TFA mentions a "pyrotechnic battery" which sounds like a great feature for a military fort but not so much for an automobile?

It was a "pyrotechnic battery disconnect", i.e., basically a type of switch/active fuse using some type of small explosive charge as part of its operation.

Here's the patent for all the gory details:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9221343

The fact that this part has a "problem" probably means that it was triggered, e.g., maybe some type of false collision detection, short circuit or other failure which ended up triggering the disconnect.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The check engine light doesn't send a notification directly to your phone with a diagnosis of what's wrong.

It also doesn't leave you stranded. Some cars have been driven for tens of thousands of miles with this light on.

I put 60,000 miles on a Jeep with a check engine light. Also spent thousands on trying to fix it at various shops which would replace all sorts of things, to no effect, including about 5 attempts to replace a costly computer board.

Eventually had a redneck guy working out of the back of his pickup truck have a go at it. After hearing about the history he spent hours unplugging, cleaning, and replugging every single wire connection and socket. And the light stayed off.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#48
post #10

On the flip side, how cool is it that cars are now smart enough to diagnose themselves and prevent you from driving before what could potentially be an unsafe situation has a chance to occur?

"Now"? This has been implemented for years - most people just call it "Check engine light" ;)

Which people drive around with for weeks without care because it usually feels like a light that indicates the dealer would love to extract some exorbitant service fee from you light.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#49

I was very disappointed that the author's idea of Catastrophic was far less interesting than what I pictured in my head. It's definitely not the only time an expensive car has failed in the first 6,000 miles of use. Also, the author's assumption that ICE cars don't fail while parked is a bit of hairsplitting. This isn't much different from any of the dozen or so times I've driven somewhere and discovered my car won't…

The difference to me of the Model 3 not being able to start and an ICE car, is there’s a nonzero chance one (either alone or with help) can get back on the road in the latter.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

#50
To me, the scariest part of the article is the last image showing the Tesla screen: "Schedule an appointment on your Tesla Mobile App". No ability to take it somewhere else, no ability to diagnose and attempt a fix yourself, you just have to hope that Tesla will fix it quickly for you.

I like Tesla as much as anyone else here, but that last image, imho, takes a bit of ownership/agency away from the owner of the car. I don't trust any company enough to have a $50k+ asset that _only they_ can work on.

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