We still don't know who was Ded Moroz's son or daughter though.
Снегурочка. But she is probably granddaughter
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That’s a typo. The pronunciation is close to “dee-yet mah-ross”
Yep, we called him "Dedek Mraz" in the balkans which also literaly translates into Grandfather Frost. (Although we did celebrate christmas since the anti-religion clampdown wasn't that aggressive in Yugoslavia.)
Mraz, sounds like мразь, not a very good word :))
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Mostyl correct but it somehow gives impression that religon pracitce was banned in USSR ("After the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, religious practice became legal again."). Which is not true. There were still churches and priests and religious practice. While being religious was seriously frowned upon and would not allow you to have any serious hopes for making a bigger career it was legal. I remember my mother tell…
Religious practice was certainly illegal, unless it was official Orthodox, Muslim, Jewish etc. There was no way to organize a non-canonical congregation, unless it was a clandestine operation for a dozen people. There was an article in the RSFSR Felony codex ("breaking the laws of separation of the church from the state, and of the school from the church", #142) the sole purpose of which was to outlaw religious congr…
Well, it is not unusual when some religious practices turn out to be incompatible with law.
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#44Even though we're behind Europe in religiosity and far behind the US, Orthodox Christianity was alive and well here after the fall of the SU, and Christmas and Easter are variously observed. It's rather notable that despite the Bolsheviks' no-nonsense and literal approach to eradicating religion, Christianity and the church have survived the Soviet era pretty well. One reason for this is said to be that in the ramp-u…
It's just my opinion, but it's not uncommon. I believe Blaise Pascal (the brilliant French mathematician) got it right when he said "There is a God-shaped vacuum in the heart of each man which cannot be satisfied by any created thing....."
For this reason, I doubt religion will ever die. It will be with us always.
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You dont have any right for tone policing. And i find your comment extremely offensive.
I'm a moderator here; it's my job to prevent this site from destroying itself, which is what subthreads like this converge to. I said "all" as a way of addressing every commenter who was posting in this spirit—not just you. Your comment wasn't so bad, since you were simply describing your experience and your feelings. But it's the root of exactly the sort of flamewar we don't want on HN. The internet can't handle arg…
I browse the comment section and all i see ia regular discussion. With no flame whatsoever. And a moderator who censored my experience and offended not only me but everyone who would like to share theirs. I still didnt get an apology for it.
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#46We still don't know who was Ded Moroz's son or daughter though.
According to [1], "Ded" (literally Grandfather) is used here in the sense of an old man or an ancestor. Snegurochka is his daughter. Ded Moroz's mother was Baba Yaga, and his wife was the Snow Queen. Hope this clears everything up.
[1] https://cb-rzhev.blogspot.com/2013/11/blog-post_4347.html
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#47I live in Poland. Before 89 when my country was occupied by Russia, "Soviet Santa" was forced here to replace Santa Clous. It was one of many things that was made to erase Christianity and replace it with atheism and communism. Fake Christmas, fake Santa, zero beliefs. I was young back than but i felt its shallow and dark. So for me Soviet Santa is a symbol of the occupation and Russian tyrrany Poland was under until…
history is never one-sided like hand-picking of facts and interpretations tends to present. Together with the "occupation by Russia" Poland also got to annex significant parts of German territories (some of those had had no valid Polish claim, like for example the Prussia, some had been historically contested between German and Poland) - it was practically spoils of war gifted by the "Russian occupiers" to Poland (an…
Polish borders were decided in Postdam conferrence between USA, UK and USSR with a pupped goverment that acted as reprezentation of Poland. But they were USSR designates. Polish government in excile was not invited to the talks. So Poland could not annex anything. The big 3 decided how to draw borders.
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Serbians also still celebrate Christmas and New Years according to the old Julian calendar. In a few thousand years they really will have Christmas in July.
It moves 3 days forward versus the Gregorian calendar every 400 years. So about 24,000 years (a little less) to hit July
Think positive: it's just another reason to drink in July in 400 years.
Re: Soviet Santa
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s a typo. The pronunciation is close to “dee-yet mah-ross”
Yep, we called him "Dedek Mraz" in the balkans which also literaly translates into Grandfather Frost. (Although we did celebrate christmas since the anti-religion clampdown wasn't that aggressive in Yugoslavia.)
"дядо мраз" in bulgaria. we also celebrated xmas with a quiet family vegetarian dinner, not having such a massive clampdown on religion, and "mraz" delivered presents on new year's. after 1989 things came back to normality and he's now called "дядо коледа". new year's is just a drinking holiday :)