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Re: Escaping San Francisco

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As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

All the "SF is a dystopian nightmare" posts are referring to a few downtown neighborhoods which represent probably less than 5% of the city by land area. It's a huge problem and it sucks if you have to go to those areas regularly, but most of the city isn't like that. I live in the Inner Richmond and it's one of the nicest neighborhoods I've ever lived in (I've lived in a bunch all over). The combination of natural b…

If only they build more housing in Inner Richmond, more people will benefit from it.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

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I hate to say this seeing what the OP is going through: But this seems largely their responsibility. While the landlord, in theory, should provide these baseline services of cleaning and repair, sometimes you got to take matters with your hands.

I have been in this situation before and there were either one of these two solutions: Fix things yourself if you can't afford a new place; or find a new place and make sure things are fixed. I prefer finding a new place but sometimes you can't afford that and need to take matters with your hands.

Where should I start?

> It took us over 9 months of emails and complaints to the landlords to finally get the doorbell replaced.

Replace the doorbell yourself. Should be easier than the endless contact with your landlord. Should be fixed in 1-2 days. Return the old doorbell when you are leaving the property.

> We ran home, but by the time we got there the box was gone.

I'm not really sure. But if I got a package stolen, I'll probably stop ordering delivery. I thought delivery is mostly useful for those living in suburbs but if you are in the city, just walk to the nearest store? And that would help preserve the community too, right?

> the gold rush mentality of the tech industry, which is mostly a lie.

Which sounds like the OP profile? https://trentlapinski.com/

If you think it's B.S. don't do it for the sake of money or fitting in. It'll just make you miserable.

Let's look at the photos:

> https://techpost.io/uploads/mold-document-4.jpg

This is "inside" the house. It'll take months for such a mold to develop. They probably have a problem with water but hell sure they have a problem with cleaning. Mold is easy to remove from my experience. Just clean the damn thing.

Tip: Paint is cheap. Buy a bucket and paint it yourself.

> https://imgur.com/a/VCFLDxz

I might be wrong here but this dust looks like it built up over a very long period. Looks like the guy and his girlfriend don't clean up?

> https://techpost.io/uploads/mold-document-2.jpg

Jesus. Did it ever come up to your mind that this doesn't look healthy? If you didn't see it, do you ever change your bed sheets?

You are paying $3500/month. The repairs could have been done by you in the weekend or the end of the day. Probably costing you less than $1000 for a one year value worth until new repairs.

Here is a tip: If your landlord is non-cooperative, tell him you are fixing it yourself but will invoice him later. He might/might not accept that but at least you get it fixed.

tl;dr: Time to grow up?

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#44
> after we finally called the city, their inspectors discovered a number of safety, structural, and health violations

They probably should have called the city on day one of moving in. Did they really go years believing this place was inhabitable? Did they never have a friend stop by and see the shitty conditions and insist they should call the city?

There is an inspection department who can haul your landlord into court. You can also withhold rent when your unit is in these conditions and if you show up to court with the photos from these posts, your landlord will be in for a bad time.

They claim the building suffered from lack of oversight from the city; and sure the city didn’t know it was being rented out. But it also suffered from lack of someone actually notifying the city.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#45
post #3

As someone planning to move to San Francisco from outside the US soon, is living in SF really as bad as all the blogs make it to be? I chose SF mainly because of its proximity to the outdoors (which I value highly) and relative lack of a concrete jungle feeling compared to NYC EDIT: I have visited SF a few times for work before, and found the homelessness and filth to be confined to a few neighborhoods..

One of the cliche transplants from SF to NYC: The lack of concrete jungle, and that desire from people both who predated the tech deluge and those who arrived because of it (like you are planning to be) is precisely why it has become as bad as the blogs make it to be. I think some things are not as bad as the blogs make it be, and many things a lot worse. In the latter category: - there is now a "fire season". Yes, t…

Very well said.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#46
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the "SF is a dystopian nightmare" posts are referring to a few downtown neighborhoods which represent probably less than 5% of the city by land area. It's a huge problem and it sucks if you have to go to those areas regularly, but most of the city isn't like that. I live in the Inner Richmond and it's one of the nicest neighborhoods I've ever lived in (I've lived in a bunch all over). The combination of natural b…

If only they build more housing in Inner Richmond, more people will benefit from it.

Agreed. Though afaik there are plans to build a huge apartment complex where the recently closed CPMC California St hospital is now (despite strenuous NIMBY objections of course). So some progress is being made, but a lot more is definitely needed.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

#47
post #12

Now they'll move to another state and vote for similar progressive legislation, regulation and policy in there. Beautiful ratchet.

To be fair to them, it's not obvious to me what their politics are. Their willingness to complain about the homeless suggests that they might be less liberal than the avg. SF resident.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

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> We eventually discovered the apartment building we were living in was built in 1908. Yes, we were living in a “sick” building that was over 100 years old, and never knew. We even found photos of our former apartment in historical archives dating back to the 1920’s. Is being just a hundred years old some kind of inherent problem? Obviously rotting is bad but they talk about discovering that it existed in 1908 like t…

The best house I've ever lived in was built in 1850. As a sibling comment points out, this is definitely survivorship bias, since only the "good" wooden houses survive this long.

Re: Escaping San Francisco

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> At one point our doorbell stopped working, resulting in at least a half dozen packages being stolen (..) It took us over 9 months of emails and complaints to the landlords to finally get the doorbell replaced

Is this a fucking joke? Remote doorbell costs like 4USD. You should just buy it yourself...

> 3,657 USD per month for an apartment

It is cheaper to go to EU by plane, get a job for like one month, get proper healthcare and come back ;)

Re: Escaping San Francisco

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post #39

This story makes no sense. $3700 can get you a nice 1 bedroom anywhere in SF, so it’s unclear why they couldn’t have found another place. If you’re renting, you find mold, and your landlord does nothing then by CA law you have the right to break your lease for unsafe living conditions. The author’s LinkedIn is filled with executive/founder/CEO roles (and claiming a 7 figure exit) and yet still needing to use GoFundMe…

Victim mentality.
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