Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

debian.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–47 of 47 posts

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#41

Post by uggedal »

Supermighty wrote: post #33
srean wrote: post #12

Debian and Arch are my two favorite Linux distributions. If only Debian distributed a version compiled for an i686 also. I know it probably wont make a huge difference for most programs. But it niggles at my sensibilities that I am not using the architecture to its full. Arch is pretty awesome in that field, but I would be wary of running it on production servers. For me Debian testing has been the best compromise, a…

Debian and Arch are my favorite too. I just wish Debian had a bit shorter release cycle. But it's a trade off, longer release cycle == stable release. I use Arch on my workstations. They don't need as stable a platform as my server. And any downtime would be minimal and easy to schedule around.

Until this weekend I was also using Debian on my servers and Arch on my workstation. Recently I've started to manage my servers with Puppet. Since Puppet don't support pacman, I installed Squeeze on my workstation and I'm now managing it with Puppet. I might have to follow testing on my workstation, but the advantage of sharing parts of the configuration with my servers has been huge.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#42

Post by pbiggar »

augustl wrote: post #36
angrycoder wrote: post #4

Anyone know if these images work with any of the popular USB key installers?

Of the distros I have used, only Ubuntu ships images that only boots on CDs. Debian, Arch, OpenSUSE all ship images that boot on "normal" storage (such as USB sticks, HDs, SSDs) and can be DD-ed to them.

I have always installed ubuntu off a USB stick, with no problems.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#43

Post by sigzero »

mariana wrote: post #11
dpapathanasiou wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

What Debian released is an stable distribution that is going to be maintained for the next 3 or 4 years. It is better to release something stable and well tested than bleeding edge stuff. Many people don't get Debian. This is a released aimed for servers and stable workstations. If you want or need bleeding edge stuff you can use Debian testing/unstable or Ubuntu as you suggested.

I agree. I use Debian not because it has the bleeding edge but because they have the most stable versions and they care about that. I love their system.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#44

Post by Supermighty »

uggedal wrote: post #41
Supermighty wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Debian and Arch are my favorite too. I just wish Debian had a bit shorter release cycle. But it's a trade off, longer release cycle == stable release. I use Arch on my workstations. They don't need as stable a platform as my server. And any downtime would be minimal and easy to schedule around.

Until this weekend I was also using Debian on my servers and Arch on my workstation. Recently I've started to manage my servers with Puppet. Since Puppet don't support pacman, I installed Squeeze on my workstation and I'm now managing it with Puppet. I might have to follow testing on my workstation, but the advantage of sharing parts of the configuration with my servers has been huge.

I'm sure I read an article where the author used git as a configuration management tool.

Now that would be fun.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#45

Post by omgmog »

angrycoder wrote: post #4

Anyone know if these images work with any of the popular USB key installers?

Installing fine from a USB stick here. I grabbed CD1 of the X64 discs, and copied to USB using dd:

dd if=/path/to/thedebian.iso of=/path/to/usbstick/device

(replacing the if and of with your paths of course -- note: all data on the usb stick will be erased, and make sure you've picked the right device!)

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#46

Post by mdisraeli »

dpapathanasiou wrote: post #5
KaeseEs wrote: post #2

Good to see my favorite distro moving forward! I only wish they could have managed to ship Perl 5.12 rather than 5.10.

I love debian too, but I don't understand why they're so far behind. OpenSSL in squeeze is v. 0.9.8o-4? http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/openssl C'mon, guys, the latest current OpenSSL is already at v. 1.2.2 This is why I'm switching to ubuntu.

For those who don't know, Ubuntu is mostly Debian Unstable with a few packages delayed and a few pushed in earlier. In the experience of most people I know, it's normally slower to move than unstable but not that much better.

The debian unstable->testing->stable cycle is vicious, and on a production system it's actually very sensible - by the time a package is allowed to reach stable, it will have been rigourously tested and actually be properly stable.

Re: Debian 6.0 “Squeeze” released

#47

Post by philjr »

rkuester wrote: post #24
telemachos wrote: post #19

Debian's website also received an upgrade[1]: > On the occasion of the release of Debian 6.0 Squeeze, the Debian website team is pleased to publish a new design for Debian's web presence. After roughly 13 years with nearly the same design, the layout and design of many of the websites run by Debian changed together with today's release of Debian Squeeze. Debian's main website and its wiki, lists archive, blog aggrega…

I don't have enough expertise in design to articulate why, but it seems to fall quite short of `cleaner and more modern.' Well, maybe it is a bit less '90s than the previous design, but I'd hardly call it clean and modern. The logo off to the left of the banner is odd, the different fonts and sizes aren't pleasing together, the columns of links seem like something you'd see at the bottom of a page rather than in the…

All of the main "volunteer" Linux distribution websites are terrible in terms of design. Gentoo, Slackware, CentOS (ugh!) and Debian all leave a great deal to be desired. Every time I visit the CentOS homepages and have to navigate their ugly menu, I die a little inside.
Post reply on HN