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Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by ambicapter »

DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

I think you're missing an overarching lesson, that she may be really funny and talented, but perhaps she is that now because when she started she was allowed to make "shitty" things? I'm of the opinion that people need space to fail before they can become good at things, and public spheres of expression sometimes don't allow time for that period of growth.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by lonelappde »

This is the story of most comedians. Good comedy is easier than good drama and deep art and invention. It's a young person's game. Good to move on to something bigger and better.

Yes, Simone is a better robotocist than most of us. That's not a compliment to her, because her dreams aim higher.

The sexist fear angle of the story is unfortunate, though. People shouldn't hold themselves back because of imagined differences in what they are allowed to do.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by wvenable »

stronglikedan wrote: post #33
sixothree wrote: post #28

I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

IME, that reflects (at least American) society in general, where males are referred to by their last names among friends much more often than females.

It also depends on the last name. Short last names will be used more than long ones, male or female. Funny last names more than non-funny ones.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by marblar »

wvenable wrote: post #43
stronglikedan wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IME, that reflects (at least American) society in general, where males are referred to by their last names among friends much more often than females.

It also depends on the last name. Short last names will be used more than long ones, male or female. Funny last names more than non-funny ones.

Did you vote for Donald or Hillary?

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by 6gvONxR4sf7o »

>"There are so many things that are amazing that are not perfect. And there are so many things that are perfect that are fucking boring," [Giertz] says. "Perfect is a corset. It doesn't let you breathe. It doesn't let you roll around. It's a small pen to be in."

Oof. That hits the perfectionist in me hard.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by sixothree »

stronglikedan wrote: post #33
sixothree wrote: post #28

I have a random observation about the comments sections of the types of videos she makes. In videos that feature female makers, commenters seem to address them by first name far more often than happens in the male maker videos. I am not sure why it bothers me but it feels off.

IME, that reflects (at least American) society in general, where males are referred to by their last names among friends much more often than females.

In the case of male Youtube makers, I find lack of any name whatsoever is more likely the case.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #45

>"There are so many things that are amazing that are not perfect. And there are so many things that are perfect that are fucking boring," [Giertz] says. "Perfect is a corset. It doesn't let you breathe. It doesn't let you roll around. It's a small pen to be in." Oof. That hits the perfectionist in me hard.

To achieve perfection is to sacrifice growth DuckerZ

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

lisper wrote: post #35
cptskippy wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a lot of mixed, mostly melancholy feelings about her self reflection there. The talk about imposter syndrome and self deprecation is something that rings true to a lot of talented people, not just women, and the power of her videos is that she demonstrates that failure is a part of success. With most media you usually see a carefully choreographed final product that appears flawless and intimdating. You don't…

Simone made shitty robots in the same way that Rodney Dangerfield got no respect. Simone was never the Queen of the Shitty Robots, she was the person who created the Queen of the Shitty Robots. And in so doing, she showed how to make a success out of something that appeared on its surface to be a failure. Hell, she even took a fucking brain tumor (in her own brain!) and turned it into humor. It is hard for me to imag…

How is that similar to Rodney Dangerfield? I’m not very familiar with him, so I missed the analogy.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by bynkman »

DagAgren wrote: post #2

> For a long time, building shitty robots meant Giertz never had to face failure, even if the robots themselves failed. “One of the things that I've been trying to figure out is: Was building shitty robots in some way a method for me to minimize myself, to make myself smaller?” Giertz says. “Because that's what I notice—a lot of women being really scared to step up and be an expert.” This rings really true, and as fu…

Allowing ourselves to fail (and learn and have fun) is a powerful thing. I discovered this a few years back playing a (new to me) board game with friends. I didn't know it well enough to win, so took the point of view that I'd probably lose, but have fun at the same time, learning this new game. All too often we are told that we have to win, succeed, make a passing grade. This definitely puts in a level of not fun and anxiety. But once you give yourself permission to fail, that dynamic changes.

Re: Why the ‘Queen of Shitty Robots’ Renounced Her Crown

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Post by lisper »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #48
lisper wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Simone made shitty robots in the same way that Rodney Dangerfield got no respect. Simone was never the Queen of the Shitty Robots, she was the person who created the Queen of the Shitty Robots. And in so doing, she showed how to make a success out of something that appeared on its surface to be a failure. Hell, she even took a fucking brain tumor (in her own brain!) and turned it into humor. It is hard for me to imag…

How is that similar to Rodney Dangerfield? I’m not very familiar with him, so I missed the analogy.

Rodney Dangerfield was a comedian who made his career out of portraying a character who was a chronic loser. His tagline was, "I get no respect."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVQB9N__pdc

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